Re: cannot get output from pflow on openbsd v. 5.8 amd64

2015-12-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-12-08, Imre Oolberg wrote: > Hi! > > I have used pflow 5 successfully before but now on OpenBSD v. 5.8 it > seems to refuse working. Config looks like this > > # cat /etc/hostname.pflow0 > flowsrc 192.168.10.125 flowdst 192.168.10.250:9784 pflowproto 5 > description "pflow" > > and i sta

Re: which in /dev/* for tethering to android?

2015-12-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-12-07, luke...@onemodel.org wrote: > On 11/28/15 15:15, Jiri B wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 03:07:15PM -0700, luke...@onemodel.org wrote: >>> I'd like to get an internet connection via my android phone (on >>> tmobile). After connecting the phone via usb and turning on its >>> tether

[drm:pid0:intel_uncore_check_errors] *ERROR* Unclaimed register before interrupt

2015-12-08 Thread Stefan Wollny
HI there, is this issue known or should I file a bug report? Best, STEFAN OpenBSD 5.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #1726: Mon Dec 7 22:06:49 MST 2015 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 17082359808 (16291MB) avail mem = 16560525312 (15793MB) mpath0 at ro

Re: Empty MFS on root

2015-12-08 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Currently, it's possible, (as root), to do something like: > > # mount_mfs -s 1g swap / > > which succeeds, and mounts the empty filesystem as the root filesystem. > > This makes the machine inoperable and requires a physical reset, without a > clean shutdown, as no system binaries are availa

Empty MFS on root

2015-12-08 Thread Tati Chevron
Currently, it's possible, (as root), to do something like: # mount_mfs -s 1g swap / which succeeds, and mounts the empty filesystem as the root filesystem. This makes the machine inoperable and requires a physical reset, without a clean shutdown, as no system binaries are available. Shouldn't

Re: Empty MFS on root

2015-12-08 Thread Ted Unangst
Tati Chevron wrote: > Currently, it's possible, (as root), to do something like: > > # mount_mfs -s 1g swap / > > which succeeds, and mounts the empty filesystem as the root filesystem. > > This makes the machine inoperable and requires a physical reset, without a > clean shutdown, as no system

Re: Empty MFS on root

2015-12-08 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 03:03:14PM +, Tati Chevron wrote: > Currently, it's possible, (as root), to do something like: > > # mount_mfs -s 1g swap / > > which succeeds, and mounts the empty filesystem as the root filesystem. > > This makes the machine inoperable and requires a physical reset

Re: Empty MFS on root

2015-12-08 Thread Uwe Werler
Am 08.12.2015 16:03:14, schrieb Tati Chevron: > Currently, it's possible, (as root), to do something like: > > # mount_mfs -s 1g swap / > > which succeeds, and mounts the empty filesystem as the root filesystem. > > This makes the machine inoperable and requires a physical reset, without a clean

Re: serious watchdog timeout issues with em driver

2015-12-08 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
On 20/11/15 15:12, Martin Pieuchot wrote: I just committed a revert to 1.305 keeping the API changes needed for the driver to build. This should bring your stability back, please let us know if that's not the case. I'm sorry for your troubles. Hi, I've upgraded yesterday to Dec 6 snapshot an

Re: Empty MFS on root

2015-12-08 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 08:09:47AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: Currently, it's possible, (as root), to do something like: # mount_mfs -s 1g swap / which succeeds, and mounts the empty filesystem as the root filesystem. This makes the machine inoperable and requires a physical reset, without a

Re: Empty MFS on root

2015-12-08 Thread Ted Unangst
Tati Chevron wrote: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 08:09:47AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > >> Currently, it's possible, (as root), to do something like: > >> > >> # mount_mfs -s 1g swap / > >> > >> which succeeds, and mounts the empty filesystem as the root filesystem. > >> > >> This makes the machine

letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread szs
So with letsencrypt here, how about making the main site default to https? Is this a good idea or is this a great idea?

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-12-08, szs wrote: > So with letsencrypt here, how about making the main site > default to https? Is this a good idea or is this a great idea? Don't mistake encryption for security. Besides, who is going to agree to the Subscriber Agreement and indemnify ISRG?

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 12:06:52PM -0500, szs wrote: > Fb jvgu yrgfrapelcg urer, ubj nobhg znxvat gur znva fvgr > qrsnhyg gb uggcf? Vf guvf n tbbq vqrn be vf guvf n terng vqrn? I'm sorry, I couldn't read your message because it was encrypted. How about you sign your messages instead? That way, eve

Re: serious watchdog timeout issues with em driver

2015-12-08 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Kapetanakis Giannis [bil...@edu.physics.uoc.gr] wrote: > On 20/11/15 15:12, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > >I just committed a revert to 1.305 keeping the API changes needed for > >the driver to build. > > > >This should bring your stability back, please let us know if that's not > >the case. > > > >I'm

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Ted Unangst
Stuart Henderson wrote: > > Besides, who is going to agree to the Subscriber Agreement and indemnify ISRG? Huh? You don't trust robots to perform surgery correctly? oh, wrong ISRG.

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread szs
Not for security. For privacy. Original Message Subject: Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/ Local Time: December 8 2015 5:36 pm UTC Time: December 8 2015 5:36 pm From: s...@spacehopper.org To: misc@openbsd.org On 2015-12-08, szs wrote: > So with

Re: cannot get output from pflow on openbsd v. 5.8 amd64

2015-12-08 Thread Imre Oolberg
Hi! On 2015-12-08 10:50, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2015-12-08, Imre Oolberg wrote: Hi! I have used pflow 5 successfully before but now on OpenBSD v. 5.8 it seems to refuse working. Config looks like this # cat /etc/hostname.pflow0 flowsrc 192.168.10.125 flowdst 192.168.10.250:9784 pflowprot

multiple certificates in httpd

2015-12-08 Thread Torsten
Hi! man httpd.conf says: [tls option] "Set the TLS configuration for the server." I assumed that "the server" would mean that every (virtual) server can have its own tls options (and certificates). Otherwise it would have said "Set the TLS configuration for httpd and all virtual servers." Is tha

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Jason Barbier
It is a read only site, the privacy you seek is breached as soon as you make a DNS call to openbsd.org -- Jason Barbier | E: jab...@serversave.us GPG Key-ID: B5F75B47(http://kusuriya.devio.us/pubkey.asc) On Tue, Dec 8, 2015, at 09:58 AM, szs wrote: > Not for security. > For privacy. > > >

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Michael McConville
Jason Barbier wrote: > szs wrote: > > Not for security. > > For privacy. > > It is a read only site, the privacy you seek is breached as soon as > you make a DNS call to openbsd.org There are still some privacy benefits to using HTTPS. It will confound a lot of simple filtering and monitoring sof

Re: multiple certificates in httpd

2015-12-08 Thread Adam Wolk
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 18:04:13 +0100 Torsten wrote: > Hi! > > man httpd.conf says: > [tls option] > "Set the TLS configuration for the server." > > I assumed that "the server" would mean that every (virtual) server can > have its own tls options (and certificates). Otherwise it would have > said "

Re: serious watchdog timeout issues with em driver

2015-12-08 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
On 08/12/15 19:39, Chris Cappuccio wrote: Kapetanakis Giannis [bil...@edu.physics.uoc.gr] wrote: On 20/11/15 15:12, Martin Pieuchot wrote: I just committed a revert to 1.305 keeping the API changes needed for the driver to build. This should bring your stability back, please let us know if tha

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Ted Unangst
Michael McConville wrote: > Jason Barbier wrote: > > szs wrote: > > > Not for security. > > > For privacy. > > > > It is a read only site, the privacy you seek is breached as soon as > > you make a DNS call to openbsd.org > > There are still some privacy benefits to using HTTPS. It will confound

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Ted Unangst
Michael McConville wrote: > Yes, but it is certainly "Websense" difficult, "Verizon traffic > monetization dept." difficult, "nosy VPN/exit node operator" difficult, > and "guy in cafe with Wireshark" difficult. But we don't care about any of those people anymore. The NSA is the only bad guy worth

Re: Empty MFS on root

2015-12-08 Thread Alexander Hall
On December 8, 2015 4:21:16 PM GMT+01:00, Otto Moerbeek wrote: >On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 03:03:14PM +, Tati Chevron wrote: > >> Currently, it's possible, (as root), to do something like: >> >> # mount_mfs -s 1g swap / >> >> which succeeds, and mounts the empty filesystem as the root >filesyst

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Michael McConville
Ted Unangst wrote: > Michael McConville wrote: > > Jason Barbier wrote: > > > szs wrote: > > > > Not for security. > > > > For privacy. > > > > > > It is a read only site, the privacy you seek is breached as soon as > > > you make a DNS call to openbsd.org > > > > There are still some privacy ben

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: > Michael McConville wrote: >> Yes, but it is certainly "Websense" difficult, "Verizon traffic >> monetization dept." difficult, "nosy VPN/exit node operator" difficult, >> and "guy in cafe with Wireshark" difficult. > > But we don't care about an

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > So with letsencrypt here, how about making the main site > > default to https? Is this a good idea or is this a great idea? > > Don't mistake encryption for security. It would actually reduce the security and potential for DDOS against openbsd.org despite the heroic efforts that have gone i

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Tati Chevron
On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 10:11:34PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: It would actually reduce the security and potential for DDOS against openbsd.org despite the heroic efforts that have gone into LibreSSL. So where's the benefit to risk analysis for OpenBSD? Don't you mean reduce the securiry and _

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> >It would actually reduce the security and potential for DDOS against > >openbsd.org despite the heroic efforts that have gone into LibreSSL. So > >where's the benefit to risk analysis for OpenBSD? > > Don't you mean reduce the securiry and _increase_ the potential for > DDOS against openbsd.o

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-12-08, Michael McConville wrote: > Jason Barbier wrote: >> szs wrote: >> > Not for security. >> > For privacy. >> >> It is a read only site, the privacy you seek is breached as soon as >> you make a DNS call to openbsd.org > > There are still some privacy benefits to using HTTPS. It will

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 08-12-2015 16:24, Michael McConville escreveu: > There are still some privacy benefits to using HTTPS. It will confound a > lot of simple filtering and monitoring software, and what you're reading > on the site is pretty obfuscated. It also helps security on sketchy > networks. > > HTTPS isn't a

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2015-12-09, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: > Also, now that we have two free TLS certs providers, one can use HPKP > and completely disregard the CA's, which is a security benefit. Also wosign (and, sort-of, cloudflare). btw, HPKP doesn't work too well with letsencrypt as-is (which wants to genera

Ikedv2 proper usage questions.

2015-12-08 Thread Daniel Ouellet
I have a few questions that I really need to clarify fro myself and I would very much appreciate some input. Reason is that I am having problem to keep the session up for a long time and just doing /etc/rc.d/iked stop and the start on the client side will bring the session back up, even if I see w

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Giancarlo Razzolini writes: > One of the main benefits of the TLS wouldn't only be to render > impossible for anyone to know which pages you're accessing on the site, > but also the fact that we would get a little more security getting the > SSH fingerprints for the anoncvs servers. Having them in

University of Toronto Mirror upcoming outages

2015-12-08 Thread Nick Holland
Hi, A heads-up for users of the University of Toronto mirror (openbsd.cs.toronto.edu): The University will be doing some power systems maintenance this week and next, and anticipate two planned outages: * Thursday, December 10 11:00p EST to Friday December 11, 7:00am EST * Wednesday, December 16

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Nick Holland
On 12/08/15 20:26, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: > Giancarlo Razzolini writes: >> One of the main benefits of the TLS wouldn't only be to render >> impossible for anyone to know which pages you're accessing on the site, >> but also the fact that we would get a little more security getting the >> SSH fi

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Delan Azabani
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Nick Holland wrote: > HAHAHHAHAHA... > you think adding a certificate changes this? > https is a joke. "Some people implement HTTPS poorly sometimes, so we shouldn't try." The amount of effort "wasted" on Let's Encrypting the OpenBSD website is so small compared

Re: letsencrypt && https && openbsd.org = https://www.openbsd.org/

2015-12-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Nick Holland wrote: > https is a joke. IF and WHEN it works properly, it's too complex for > the real world to understand (ahem...and even recognize). That's not the joke, though - that's the punchline. (1) "Secure" and "Security" mean different (and often confl