Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-21 Thread Stuart VanZee
> From: Chris > Subject: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD > > > I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and > employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to > change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Ot

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-21 Thread Matt
Chris schreef: I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others would say that if I leave the job, it would be hard to find people who can us

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-21 Thread Lars Noodén
Chris wrote: > ... > Is there any way I could convince these people to make the move to > OpenBSD? Suggestions, tips and tricks along with real life examples > would be much appreciated. Thanks. Be seen using it ...and let them think they figured out on their own that you are. If you have to brin

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Nick Holland
Chris wrote: > I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and > employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to > change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others > would say that if I leave the job, it would be hard to find people who >

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Gary Thornock
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients > and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent > to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. > Others would say that if I

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Chris escreveu: > I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and > employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to > change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others > would say that if I leave the job, it would be hard to find people who

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread System Administrator
On 20 Mar 2008 at 20:33, Richard Daemon wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients > and > > employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to > > change and would not use anythi

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Richard Daemon
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and > employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to > change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others > would say that if

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread bofh
Oh yeah, I almost implemented nedi at the last place too. That would have been sweet. On 3/20/08, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If they resist change, you have no hope. When I have implemented OpenBSD, > it is because I needed to do something quickly, and am supporting it > myself. I ha

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Gerardo Santana Gómez Garrido
On 3/20/08, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After that, I've documented every maintenance task. That way your > manager can be confident that, when a truck hits you, anyone can get > the documentation and keep maintaining the thing. Anyone with a Unix/Unix-like backgr

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Gerardo Santana Gómez Garrido
On 3/20/08, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and > employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to > change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others > would say that if I leave the job, it

Re: [OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread bofh
If they resist change, you have no hope. When I have implemented OpenBSD, it is because I needed to do something quickly, and am supporting it myself. I have set up DNS, reverse proxies, web servers, jabber, application (tomcat) servers, ntp, and others this way. War stories will never convince

[OT] Pursuing Management to adopt OpenBSD

2008-03-20 Thread Chris
I been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to convince various clients and employers to adopt OpenBSD. Most people, I find, are resistent to change and would not use anything they are not familiar with. Others would say that if I leave the job, it would be hard to find people who can use (or even heard