Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-26 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Thursday, October 25, 2018 9:59:09 PM -03 Philip Guenther wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 8:44 PM diego righi wrote: > > So why openbsd 6.4 i386 and amd64 bootloaders (not biosboot, boot!) > > express different behavior? Wasn't openbsd about correctness? :/ > > If I'm wrong and it is document

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-26 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 07:57:50AM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > Using one big "a" partition means: > > - higher risk of filesystem damage to system partitions after an > unsafe restart (crash, power failure): if a partition isn't actively > written to, it's less likely to suffer damage > > -

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-26 Thread Stuart Henderson
Using one big "a" partition means: - higher risk of filesystem damage to system partitions after an unsafe restart (crash, power failure): if a partition isn't actively written to, it's less likely to suffer damage - missing protective flags (e.g. nodev, nosuid) that are set on mounts that don't

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread Philip Guenther
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 8:44 PM diego righi wrote: > So why openbsd 6.4 i386 and amd64 bootloaders (not biosboot, boot!) > express different behavior? Wasn't openbsd about correctness? :/ > If I'm wrong and it is documented that I can't do this fine, but so also > i386 should not work, this behav

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread Mike Larkin
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 07:41:54AM +0200, diego righi wrote: > So let's say I'm a fool, I use a foolish partition layout, and the intel x86 > and amd64 architectures are tricky/shitty architectures with stupid bioses > which work bad, ok? > So why openbsd 6.4 i386 and amd64 bootloaders (not biosboo

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread Theo de Raadt
diego righi wrote: > So let's say I'm a fool, I use a foolish partition layout, and the intel x86 > and amd64 architectures are tricky/shitty architectures with stupid bioses > which work bad, ok? > So why openbsd 6.4 i386 and amd64 bootloaders (not biosboot, boot!) > express different behavior?

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread diego righi
So let's say I'm a fool, I use a foolish partition layout, and the intel x86 and amd64 architectures are tricky/shitty architectures with stupid bioses which work bad, ok? So why openbsd 6.4 i386 and amd64 bootloaders (not biosboot, boot!) express different behavior? Wasn't openbsd about correctnes

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread Misc User
Why are so many people lining up to die on the "One big root partition" hill?  Partition your disks for fuck's sake, or if you are too lazy to do that, just let the installer do it for you.  And, no, it doesn't "just work", it doesn't, it just hasn't broken yet. Also, both install.i386 and instal

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread diego righi
So now I try to reply, I don't want to sound like a troll, because I'm an openbsd user and supporter since very long time and I know that with a proper bug report the full dmesg should be provided and possibly even more... ...but to keep things short I've this ECS GF8100VM-M5 motherboard that I us

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread Theo de Raadt
diego righi wrote: > Big "a" slice may not be advised and not secure for production, but it > always worked. Do you have evidence? > (and on i386 it still works, even on amd64 with the i386 bootloader) Evidence supplied? BTW, the i386 and amd64 bootloaders are largely identical. You better h

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread diego righi
Big "a" slice may not be advised and not secure for production, but it always worked. (and on i386 it still works, even on amd64 with the i386 bootloader) So I agree that it is not good practice but to quick test machines I've did it many times. (and never found in the FAQ nor in the manpages that

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread Mike Larkin
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 07:02:20PM +, mabi wrote: > Indeed, I just created one huge "a" slice with 500 GB for my / root > partition. I will try first to create a smaller/many slices... > This has occurred three times just this week. I'm curious why you did this; is there a new FAQ or someone

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread mabi
Indeed, I just created one huge "a" slice with 500 GB for my / root partition. I will try first to create a smaller/many slices... @Kristjan: "entry point at ..." no it didn't even get to this line, it just rebooted at the line counting all these numbers, I think that it the very first line of

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread Kristjan Komloši
Does it get to the "entry point at ..." line? V V čet., 25. okt. 2018 ob 20:02 je oseba diego righi napisala: > did you make only one big a slice? > try to put the i386 bootloader ;) > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 18:20 mabi wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I just installed OpenBSD 6.4 on an older Dell Powe

Re: Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread diego righi
did you make only one big a slice? try to put the i386 bootloader ;) On Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 18:20 mabi wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed OpenBSD 6.4 on an older Dell PowerEdge R410 server. The > installation went fine but upon reboot I get to the "boot>" prompt then the > first line of the OpenBS

Dell PowerEdge R410 not booting 6.4

2018-10-25 Thread mabi
Hi, I just installed OpenBSD 6.4 on an older Dell PowerEdge R410 server. The installation went fine but upon reboot I get to the "boot>" prompt then the first line of the OpenBSD boot starts with all the numbers displaying but like 2 seconds later the whole server reboots. Any idea what that co