Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-24 Thread Henning Brauer
* roberth [2010-12-11 01:29]: > On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 23:25:56 +0100 > Paolo Aglialoro wrote: > > ok, what manufacturers are left??? :)) just toshiba??? > i am happy with samsung, because in that area i am a cheapskate. > hardware dies, deal with it, don't buy the new kid on the block and be > happ

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-15 Thread MichaƂ Koc
Can't say anything bad about WD Raid Edition drives. Currently I've go over 100 of them without any problems. Thou I've found some of them generating small number of Raw Read Error Rate, but only in 2TB model WDC WD2002FYPS. I've got much worse experience with Seagate My policy i

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-15 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 01:23:36 +0100 roberth wrote: > sata disk got really crappy since they hit 2TB. (or 1.5TB in Seagates > case.) Hitachi have said that some issues were hit when they moved to 2tbs but a new generation of their drives will solve these problems starting with a 3tb version. I've

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-12 Thread David Vasek
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Nick Holland wrote: Me? I usually buy whatever is cheap and on sale. Some manufacturers have the advantage of providing good documentation for their drives, some others do not have any at all. Regards, David

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-11 Thread Marco Peereboom
I'll have to disagree a bit here. Manufacturers go through cycles and usually there is one that stands out on a size/period. Manufacturers almost never change the manufacturing process over time for a particular drive. They will update firmware as time goes buy. So a good drive today is going t

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-11 Thread Eric Furman
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 08:33 +0100, "Jan Stary" wrote: > > Me? I usually buy whatever is cheap and on sale. And if it fails, I > > test my tolerance and recovery plans :) Do this right, your system will > > be back up faster than you can digest dozens of people's opinions about > > the "best" driv

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-10 Thread Jan Stary
> Me? I usually buy whatever is cheap and on sale. And if it fails, I > test my tolerance and recovery plans :) Do this right, your system will > be back up faster than you can digest dozens of people's opinions about > the "best" drives and pick one (which may turn out to be a stinker anyway).

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-10 Thread Nick Holland
On 12/10/10 17:25, Paolo Aglialoro wrote: > ok, what manufacturers are left??? :)) just toshiba??? > I'm going to say "Anyone who says brand X is great and Y is crap" has just exposed themselves as a newbie in the computer business. :) I've seen every make of drive have some real stinkers, and a

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-10 Thread roberth
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 23:25:56 +0100 Paolo Aglialoro wrote: > ok, what manufacturers are left??? :)) just toshiba??? i am happy with samsung, because in that area i am a cheapskate. hardware dies, deal with it, don't buy the new kid on the block and be happy. :) sata disk got really crappy since t

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-10 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
ok, what manufacturers are left??? :)) just toshiba??? On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:16 PM, roberth wrote: > On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 22:50:21 +0100 > roberth wrote: > > > WD's trackrecord is reaching Seagate levels. > > Heck, even Hitachi has remidied itself from the deathstar tech they > > took over f

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-09 Thread roberth
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 22:50:21 +0100 roberth wrote: > WD's trackrecord is reaching Seagate levels. > Heck, even Hitachi has remidied itself from the deathstar tech they > took over from IBM. Just to be complete, Samsung fixing their SMART bug with a firmware that doesn't bump the version number, do

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-09 Thread roberth
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:48:02 -0500 Aaron Suen wrote: > It looks like the IntelliPark feature on a Western Digital Caviar > Green HDD can cause issues with OpenBSD, which can be fixed/mitigated > by disabling IntelliPark. Not an issue with OpenBSD in itself. It's a generall "bug" with the firmwar

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-09 Thread Aaron Suen
I have a WD10EADS-22M2B0. Manufacture date printed on the drive is 17 MAR 2010, and I haven't attempted any firmware updates, if applicable. There appear to be some drives out there that support a much wider range of IntelliPark timeouts, and support TLER. My idle timer only goes up to 300s, or

Re: Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-09 Thread Joel Wiramu Pauling
Hrm, do you have model number of the drives? I have some WD drives in a raid 10 array (LVM2 + EXT4 + linux) for my media PC and it would be useful to figure out if some of the issues I have seen over the last year have been related to the use of drive. On 10 December 2010 08:48, Aaron Suen wrote

Freeze with Western Digital Caviar Green HDD

2010-12-09 Thread Aaron Suen
It looks like the IntelliPark feature on a Western Digital Caviar Green HDD can cause issues with OpenBSD, which can be fixed/mitigated by disabling IntelliPark. About 6 months ago, I built myself a new amd64 machine. I decided to optimize for low wattage--reducing power costs and waste heat, inc