theo wrote:
> What do thsi have to with OpenBSD?
Drat. Someone discovered The Homoheterothropic Society for the
Intermezzanic! Mesupposes we'll have to disband.
--zeur.
--
Friggin' Machines!
theo wrote:
> What does this have to do with OpenBSD?
Alright, let's talk about leadership. Do you folks think Linus is a
better leader than Theo here?
There, OpenBSD angle restored.
(Yes, medoes wish that discussion about lunix et al. be toned down. Even
so, mealso wishes that the
What does this have to do with OpenBSD?
zap wrote:
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>
>
> On 04/14/2020 04:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > What the hell does this have to do with OpenBSD?
> >
> >
> Probably it has nothing to do with OpenBSD, since they are no longer
> talking about wine for OpenBSD.Â
>
> But yeah, I for
What do thsi have to with OpenBSD?
zap wrote:
> Well just to correct myself, seeming libre. It isn't actually that much
> more libre than OpenBSD.
>
>
> On 04/14/2020 05:54 PM, zap wrote:
> >
> > On 04/14/2020 04:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >> What the hell does this have to do with
Well just to correct myself, seeming libre. It isn't actually that much
more libre than OpenBSD.
On 04/14/2020 05:54 PM, zap wrote:
>
> On 04/14/2020 04:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
>> What the hell does this have to do with OpenBSD?
>>
>>
> Probably it has nothing to do with OpenBSD, since they
On 04/14/2020 04:22 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> What the hell does this have to do with OpenBSD?
>
>
Probably it has nothing to do with OpenBSD, since they are no longer
talking about wine for OpenBSD.
But yeah, I for one am glad you take up the K.I.S.S way of doing things.
Linux is a beast
What does this have to do with OpenBSD?
Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 22:38:00 +0300
> Consus wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:12:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > > last I checked, systemd was not modular, was poorly documented,
> > > exhibited incompatibilities with
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 22:38:00 +0300
Consus wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:12:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > last I checked, systemd was not modular, was poorly documented,
> > exhibited incompatibilities with basically all historical
> > interfaces, and had introduced a variety of
What does this have to do with OpenBSD?
Raul Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM Consus wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:10:14PM +0200, Oddmund G. wrote:
> > > I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> > > several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS
What the hell does this have to do with OpenBSD?
i...@aulix.com wrote:
> There are IMHO a few of good systemD free Linux distros:
> Devuan - Debian without systemD
> Parabola - Arch without systemD
>
> Alpine unfortunately lacks verification of checksums of earlier installed
> files.
>
>
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 04:15:20PM -0400, Daniel Jakots wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 16:05:56 -0400, Raul Miller
> wrote:
>
> > Got any good docs on how to debug (or monitor) D-Bus issues?
>
> You're asking help to debug D-Bus on an OpenBSD mailing list? Why don't
> you bring this sooo
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 16:05:56 -0400, Raul Miller
wrote:
> Got any good docs on how to debug (or monitor) D-Bus issues?
You're asking help to debug D-Bus on an OpenBSD mailing list? Why don't
you bring this sooo interesting discussion off-list?
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 04:05:56PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:38 PM Consus wrote:
> > It is modular to a degree, but separating services requires a bit of
> > work so yeah, in this area systemd sucks. Documentation is pretty good
> > though. I don't like the complexity
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 3:38 PM Consus wrote:
> It is modular to a degree, but separating services requires a bit of
> work so yeah, in this area systemd sucks. Documentation is pretty good
> though. I don't like the complexity of the thing, but I've never been
> stuck because there is not
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:12:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM Consus wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:10:14PM +0200, Oddmund G. wrote:
> > > I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> > > several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:37 PM Consus wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:10:14PM +0200, Oddmund G. wrote:
> > I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> > several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS @DEC: Slackware in the beginning, then
> > Debian until the forced
There are IMHO a few of good systemD free Linux distros:
Devuan - Debian without systemD
Parabola - Arch without systemD
Alpine unfortunately lacks verification of checksums of earlier installed files.
Like wajig integrity (debsums) in Devuan.
More info about verification:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:10:14PM +0200, Oddmund G. wrote:
> I know all this, Ottavio. I have been using GNU+Linux since 1994 after
> several years with Ultrix/VMS/OpenVMS @DEC: Slackware in the beginning, then
> Debian until the forced introduction of systemd and the rest of the crap
> being
Le 14/04/2020 à 17:10, Oddmund G. a écrit :
Linux is doomed. Closer 'integration' of systemd, pulseaudio, wayland
Wayland isn't that bad. It solves many things by reducing the display
complexity and is much faster than X.Org. The real problem is by being
simple; many compositors (~= window
Amen to all that. Arch Linux worked for me for many years, but the
Arch philosophy of adopting bleeding edge software has become
increasingly difficult to deal with, given the corporate takeover of
Linux. Started out with BSD in the early days, moved to Slackware,
Debian, and then Arch. Finally
Le 14/04/2020 à 15:49, Ottavio Caruso a écrit :
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 12:06, Oddmund G. wrote:
Since the ongoing corporate takeover of GNU+Linux,
GNU, whether we like them or not, have not been and will not be taken
over by "corporate", as long as Stallman is alive.
As for Linux, it is not
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 12:06, Oddmund G. wrote:
> Since the ongoing corporate takeover of GNU+Linux,
GNU, whether we like them or not, have not been and will not be taken
over by "corporate", as long as Stallman is alive.
As for Linux, it is not an OS but just a kernel. The only distros that
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