Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-15 Thread Joel Rees
An idle mind is the devil's workshop. On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Mike Burns mike+open...@mike-burns.com wrote: On 2015-06-14 16.46.53 +0200, Max Power wrote: Only the group is changed. But why the owner is remained the same [root]? On OpenBSD, I can not get root:root ? No: $ grep

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-15 Thread Raimo Niskanen
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 09:53:56AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: My memories of Debiandora are fading slightly, but, ... : ... I think the numeric id for wheel group in Linux is not 0. At least on Ubuntu 12.04 there is no wheel group and the numeric id for the root group is 0. Which is relevant

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-15 Thread Liviu Daia
On 15 June 2015, Raimo Niskanen raimo+open...@erix.ericsson.se wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 09:53:56AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: My memories of Debiandora are fading slightly, but, ... ... I think the numeric id for wheel group in Linux is not 0. At least on Ubuntu 12.04 there is no wheel

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 04:46:53PM +0200, Max Power wrote: Thank You Gilles for Your reply. Only the group is changed. But why the owner is remained the same [root]? On OpenBSD, I can not get root:root ? Tradition. Note that the description of wheel characteristics in FSF's Linux used to

GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Max Power
Hi guys! I copied my files from Debian [ext4] to my new server OpenBSD [5.7 amd64], and I found that all files of 'ROOT' group were imported [in OpenBSD] in the 'Wheel' group. Why is this? [Owner is the same, there is no change.] Thank fro reply.

GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Max Power
Thank You Gilles for Your reply. Only the group is changed. But why the owner is remained the same [root]? On OpenBSD, I can not get root:root ? Thanks. On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 04:32:18PM +0200, Max Power wrote: Hi guys! I copied my files from Debian [ext4] to my new server OpenBSD [5.7

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Mike Burns
On 2015-06-14 16.46.53 +0200, Max Power wrote: Only the group is changed. But why the owner is remained the same [root]? On OpenBSD, I can not get root:root ? No: $ grep ^root /etc/group $ On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 04:32:18PM +0200, Max Power wrote: Hi guys! I copied my files from

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Bernte
Groups and users are actually just numbers, the mapping to names happens in the /etc/passwd and /etc/group files. On Linux, user 0 is 'root' and group 0 is 'root'. On BSDs, user 0 is 'root', but group 0 is 'wheel'. Check the /etc/group file on both systems, and you will see. Bernd On 14/06/15

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread andrew fabbro
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: Note that the description of wheel characteristics in FSF's Linux used to be hilarious. Yes, it was on the su(1) man page...it's still in their docs:

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 04:32:18PM +0200, Max Power wrote: Hi guys! I copied my files from Debian [ext4] to my new server OpenBSD [5.7 amd64], and I found that all files of 'ROOT' group were imported [in OpenBSD] in the 'Wheel' group. Why is this? [Owner is the same, there is no change.]

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Joel Rees
My memories of Debiandora are fading slightly, but, ... 2015/06/15 8:53 Rick Hanson r...@tamos.net: From the linux su man page: This version of su uses PAM for authentication, account and session management. Some configuration options found in other su implementations, such as support

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Rick Hanson
From the linux su man page: This version of su uses PAM for authentication, account and session management. Some configuration options found in other su implementations, such as support for a wheel group, have to be configured via PAM. So, you see, the jack-booted thug rulers have already

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Eric Furman
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015, at 06:14 PM, andrew fabbro wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: Note that the description of wheel characteristics in FSF's Linux used to be hilarious. Yes, it was on the su(1) man page...it's still in their docs:

Re: GROUP CHANGED

2015-06-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
Yes, it was on the su(1) man page...it's still in their docs: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/su-invocation.html#index-fascism-2365 So welcome to the oppressive, totalitarian regime of *BSD. If you've got root, be sure to claim your free pair of hobnailed