Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-05 Thread Daniel Malament
The wrap-up: So I got the data off the drive. :) One issue is it turns out the drive is a bit flaky. I'm not sure how much of the issue is heat, and how much is tilt. I had done most of my fiddling with the drive perched in places that weren't quite flat, and I think these old drives must h

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-02 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:01:41 -0500 Daniel Malament wrote: > > Alternatively, can disktab be used? The documentation is not > > entirely transparent > > on this, but it does appear that disktab might be able to override > > BIOS parameters. > > Apparently not. disktab looks like it's mostly used

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-02 Thread Adriaan
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Malament wrote: >> I think my first course of action would be to use DOS, or possibly OS/2, >> to >> override the disk geometry, unless the disk has data on it that can only >> be >> accessed from OpenBSD. Yes, I know it's intellectually more fun to get >> O

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-02 Thread Daniel Malament
Alternatively, can disktab be used? The documentation is not entirely transparent on this, but it does appear that disktab might be able to override BIOS parameters. Apparently not. disktab looks like it's mostly used by disklabel. It turns out disklabel with -e will let you edit the geometr

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-02 Thread Peter Kay (Syllopsium)
From: "Daniel Malament" To: "Peter Kay (Syllopsium)" I think my first course of action would be to use DOS, or possibly OS/2, to override the disk geometry, unless the disk has data on it that can only be accessed from OpenBSD. Yes, I know it's intellectually more fun to get OpenBSD to do it,

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-02 Thread Daniel Malament
I think my first course of action would be to use DOS, or possibly OS/2, to override the disk geometry, unless the disk has data on it that can only be accessed from OpenBSD. Yes, I know it's intellectually more fun to get OpenBSD to do it, but for a one off with little practical future use I thi

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-02 Thread Peter Kay (Syllopsium)
From: "Daniel Malament" Subject: Re: MFM disk geometry Try looking for "Total Hardware '99" - your controller might be documented in there. Nice! Thanks. http://th99.dyndns.org/c/C-D/20069.htm Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it's actually all that c

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-02 Thread Daniel Malament
Try looking for "Total Hardware '99" - your controller might be documented in there. Nice! Thanks. http://th99.dyndns.org/c/C-D/20069.htm Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it's actually all that configurable. Although I don't know what some of those settings actually mean. Does anyone e

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-02 Thread Aaron Mason
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Daniel Malament wrote: >> holy cow. >> of all the times NOT to post a dmesg! (and fdisk output). It >> probably wouldn't help diagnose the problem, but it would be cool to >> see. :) Obviously, you got a PIII machine with ISA slots, not the >> most common of beas

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-02 Thread Woodchuck
"Results 1 - 10 of about 25,100 for Seagate ST225", possibly the most common 20MB 1/2 height MFM drive. Google is my friend. It could be your friend, too. I seem to recall that LBA and fake geometry and related stunts could be done on the controller. At least I recall a "Promise" IDE controller

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-01 Thread Daniel Malament
holy cow. of all the times NOT to post a dmesg! (and fdisk output). It probably wouldn't help diagnose the problem, but it would be cool to see. :) Obviously, you got a PIII machine with ISA slots, not the most common of beasts (though they certainly exist). (actually, the dmesg would probably

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-01 Thread Nick Holland
Daniel Malament wrote: > I'm trying to pull data off an old MFM HD, and I've gotten to the point > where the only obstacle is disk geometry. I have a P3 machine which > will disable the primary IDE controller in favor of the MFM controller, > but boot off of an OpenBSD disk on the secondary IDE

Re: MFM disk geometry

2010-02-01 Thread john drakenäs
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 11:17:33 -0500 Daniel Malament wrote: > I'm trying to pull data off an old MFM HD, and I've gotten to the > point where the only obstacle is disk geometry. I have a P3 machine > which will disable the primary IDE controller in favor of the MFM > controller, but boot off of an

MFM disk geometry

2010-02-01 Thread Daniel Malament
I'm trying to pull data off an old MFM HD, and I've gotten to the point where the only obstacle is disk geometry. I have a P3 machine which will disable the primary IDE controller in favor of the MFM controller, but boot off of an OpenBSD disk on the secondary IDE. OpenBSD sees the MFM disk j