Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

2014-08-18 0:22 GMT+02:00 Joel Rees : > But they own the format, and 3rd party cleanroom implementations still have No. ISO does this 2007. Best Martin

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

| I've seen this before. It has never helped OpenBSD. I'll stop short of calling | the OP a troll, but boy, what an amazing distraction. I wonder who funds | him. Yep, if it's such a great idea then why aren't these suggestion makers doing it? The answer is that it would be a colossal waste o

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

> > Well yes, but those are problems with Adobe's dreadful reader, > > not with the (standardised) format itself. > > Unfortunately, the format itself breeds holes. > > Being a fan of postfix languages, it's been a bit of a bitter pill for me, > but I've done some of the math. The problem is not

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

2014/08/17 20:50 "Norman Gray" : > > [...] > > Well yes, but those are problems with Adobe's dreadful reader, > not with the (standardised) format itself. Unfortunately, the format itself breeds holes. Being a fan of postfix languages, it's been a bit of a bitter pill for me, but I've done some o

Re: PDF FAQ

Hi, Norman Gray wrote on Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:47:41PM +0100: > Docbook is a reasonable suggestion, and intended for [...] You may have mistaken me. The only reason i'm involved with docbook2mdoc(1) is that that tool can be used to migrate content *away* from Docbook, and to exploit doclifter

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

Theo, hello. On 2014 Aug 17, at 18:09, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Noone is going to bother setting up sales for something that can be > trivially reproduced. But that's the odd thing about the Python Reference Manual I linked to [1]. It's identical to the downloadable version of the same document

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

> I'll spell this out again: It has been claimed that some people would > buy a printed text who would not buy CDs (this was originally Worik > Stanton's suggestion, and I think it's plausible). If such an artefact can > be produced and distributed trivially easily (I think I have demonstrated > t

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

Mihai, hello. On 2014 Aug 17, at 09:50, Mihai Popescu wrote: > To OP: I presume you're addressing me? > and yet you are asking for more and try to > suggest crazy things. No, I'm not asking for more. I'm offering code, and a mildly reorganised FAQ source text which would incidentally make it

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

Nick, hello. On 2014 Aug 17, at 11:02, Nick Holland wrote: > I used to generate PDF files of the FAQ. I stopped this a few years > ago, when I decided that the use of PDF files was not to be encouraged > in any way, shape or form. Adobe writes crap code and does what they > can to push it onto

Re: PDF FAQ

Adam and Ingo, hello. On 2014 Aug 16, at 22:20, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Adam Thompson wrote on Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 03:27:46PM -0500: >> On 14-08-16 01:01 PM, Norman Gray wrote: > >>> To do this, I took the HTML versions of the FAQ sections, and >>> normalised them into regular XHTML (which make

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

On 08/16/14 14:00, Norman Gray wrote: ... > At you will find, > for your delectation and delight: > > * A PDF of sections 1--5 of the FAQ; > * An HTML version of this; > * A tarball containing the source of the scripts which generate these >

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

To OP: I think you are polluting the list for nothing. Renaming threads is also awkward since you can't follow them. Let me clarify for you: all that OpenBSD developers can offer is already out for free. They asked for your (our) donations to keep the project going on and they did that with no con

Re: PDF FAQ

Hi Adam, Adam Thompson wrote on Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 03:27:46PM -0500: > On 14-08-16 01:01 PM, Norman Gray wrote: >> To do this, I took the HTML versions of the FAQ sections, and >> normalised them into regular XHTML (which makes them processable >> into other forms). With that done, it was stra

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

On 14-08-16 01:01 PM, Norman Gray wrote: To do this, I took the HTML versions of the FAQ sections, and normalised them into regular XHTML (which makes them processable into other forms). With that done, it was straightforward to transform the result into both HTML for presentation, and into LaTe

Re: PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Norman Gray wrote: > Greetings. > > Some way up this thread, I said: > > On 2014 Aug 14, at 11:21, Norman Gray wrote: > > > On 2014 Aug 14, at 01:10, Worik Stanton wrote: > > > >> Suggestion: Package the release notes, FAQ and some other documentation > >> into

PDF FAQ [Was: Donations to OpenBSD]

Greetings. Some way up this thread, I said: On 2014 Aug 14, at 11:21, Norman Gray wrote: > On 2014 Aug 14, at 01:10, Worik Stanton wrote: > >> Suggestion: Package the release notes, FAQ and some other documentation >> into a PDF and sell that at the same price as the CD, from the same >> pla