Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-28 Thread Siju George
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Miod Vallat wrote: > > Please, please, please, can someone port ZFS, just to end this endless > > thread...? > > Please someone port HAMMER instead. We are only interested in free > software, with no strings attached. > YAY!!! http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/m

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Hessler
No, just end the thread. -- There's an old proverb that says just about whatever you want it to.

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Miod Vallat
> Please, please, please, can someone port ZFS, just to end this endless > thread...? Please someone port HAMMER instead. We are only interested in free software, with no strings attached.

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Dustin Fechner
Please, please, please, can someone port ZFS, just to end this endless thread...?

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread bofh
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > What's much more funny is that Oracle is paying for training and > support to Joyent to be able to offer at least some level of support > in ZFS for its own customers :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc Funny rant half way through.

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Mike Jackson
Yeah, can I order one? This thread is hilariously funny! I even managed to get an entire car full of people laughing by reading it to them from my mobile. Long live OpenBSD and long live ZFS - I love you both! On 22 Feb 2013, at 16:18, Brian Callahan wrote: > On 2/22/2013 8:02 AM, Ted Unangs

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Brian Callahan
On 2/22/2013 8:02 AM, Ted Unangst wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 06:42, Eric Furman wrote: Until your name is on this list; http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/ports/geo/openbsd-developers/files/OpenBSD YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER. I'm making this into a shirt. ~Brian

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 06:42, Eric Furman wrote: > Until your name is on this list; > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/ports/geo/openbsd-developers/files/OpenBSD > > YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER. Now that's hysterical.

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Janne Johansson
OpenBSD doesn't believe much in them, and doesn't need lkms for all basic usage. It just didn't get disabled in case someone (like OpenAFS users) wants it. It doesn't work on all platforms, either 2013/2/22 Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado : > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 04:22:51AM -0500, Jiri B wrote:

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 04:22:51AM -0500, Jiri B wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 03:29:21AM +0100, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado > wrote: > > OpenBSD doesn't have support for loadable kernel modules or FUSE, so > > OpenBSD should include the code inside of the kernel. This is a big > > differenc

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Eric Furman
That proves nothing. Until your name is on this list; http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/ports/geo/openbsd-developers/files/OpenBSD YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER. FUCK YOU! On Fri, Feb 22, 2013, at 06:29 AM, Martin Schröder wrote: > 2013/2/22 Eric Furman : > > but Martin Schröder is not a

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Hessler
Please take personal insults off list. We are not interested. -- Don't cook tonight -- starve a rat today!

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Martin Schröder
2013/2/22 Eric Furman : > but Martin Schröder is not a developer. So what is his word worth??? http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#Journaling Now go and fuck yourself.

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Eric Furman
but Martin Schröder is not a developer. So what is his word worth??? I don't know and neither does Martin Schröder. On Fri, Feb 22, 2013, at 04:23 AM, Martin Schröder wrote: > 2013/2/22 Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado : > > Here in the BSD world, we have HAMMER, a good alternative with a license >

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Jiri B
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 04:22:51AM -0500, Jiri B wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 03:29:21AM +0100, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado > wrote: > > OpenBSD doesn't have support for loadable kernel modules or FUSE, so > > OpenBSD should include the code inside of the kernel. This is a big > > differenc

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Martin Schröder
2013/2/22 Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado : > Here in the BSD world, we have HAMMER, a good alternative with a license > compatible and a reasonable requirements. Here in the OpenBSD world we don't have HAMMER. Best Martin

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Jiri B
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 03:29:21AM +0100, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > OpenBSD doesn't have support for loadable kernel modules or FUSE, so > OpenBSD should include the code inside of the kernel. This is a big > difference with FreeBSD/NetBSD/Linux. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2013 Feb 22 (Fri) at 09:27:59 +0100 (+0100), Tomas Bodzar wrote: :On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: :> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 05:15:35PM -0500, Bryan Horstmann-Allen wrote: :>> I apologize this is off-topic, but I'm somewhat close to the illumos project :>> and would like

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-22 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 05:15:35PM -0500, Bryan Horstmann-Allen wrote: >> I apologize this is off-topic, but I'm somewhat close to the illumos project >> and would like to correct a few things. >> >> [...things corrected...] > > Well, thank

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Antoine Verheijen
On 2013-02-21, at 11:21 PM, Eric Furman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Rod Whitworth >> wrote: >>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:54:58 -0430, Andres Perera wrote: >> ... lkm(4) is outdated with wrong information about a feature

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Eric Furman
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Rod Whitworth > wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:54:58 -0430, Andres Perera wrote: > ... > >>lkm(4) is outdated with wrong information about a feature no longer present? > > > > From cvsweb:src/lkm/ap/Att

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Philip Guenther
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Rod Whitworth wrote: > On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:54:58 -0430, Andres Perera wrote: ... >>lkm(4) is outdated with wrong information about a feature no longer present? > > From cvsweb:src/lkm/ap/Attic/README > > Revision 1.3 > Mon Feb 24 22:30:12 2003 UTC (10 years ago)

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:54:58 -0430, Andres Perera wrote: >On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado > wrote: > >> OpenBSD doesn't have support for loadable kernel modules or FUSE, so >> OpenBSD should include the code inside of the kernel. This is a big >> difference with Fre

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:54:58PM -0430, Andres Perera wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado > wrote: > > > OpenBSD doesn't have support for loadable kernel modules or FUSE, so > > OpenBSD should include the code inside of the kernel. This is a big > > differen

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Andres Perera
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote: > OpenBSD doesn't have support for loadable kernel modules or FUSE, so > OpenBSD should include the code inside of the kernel. This is a big > difference with FreeBSD/NetBSD/Linux. lkm(4) is outdated with wrong information ab

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 05:15:35PM -0500, Bryan Horstmann-Allen wrote: > I apologize this is off-topic, but I'm somewhat close to the illumos project > and would like to correct a few things. > > +-- > | On 2013-02-21 22:1

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
> There is zero reason not to have ZFS in a free system. Consider its inclusion > in FreeBSD. Just because FreeBSD decided to compromise in regards to ZFS, does not mean everyone else has to as well. They could include all sorts of other code with similar licenses, yet there they often stand firm

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Bryan Horstmann-Allen
I apologize this is off-topic, but I'm somewhat close to the illumos project and would like to correct a few things. +-- | On 2013-02-21 22:12:45, Jeremie Le Hen wrote: | | > So, long story short, I do not see any option

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 05:15:35PM -0500, Bryan Horstmann-Allen wrote: > I apologize this is off-topic, but I'm somewhat close to the illumos project > and would like to correct a few things. > > [...things corrected...] Well, thank you very much for correcting me and providing us high quality in

Re: Precisions on ZFS (was: Millions of files in /var/www & inode / out of space issue.)

2013-02-21 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:32:02AM +0100, Matthias Appel wrote: > > Yupp, I think, that's (beside the CDDL part of ZFS) it the major > turn-off in any kind of productive enviroment. > > At the moment I don't know how FreeBSD handles the ZFS development, but > maintaining a not-really-fully-ZFS