Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-12-01 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Fri, 30.11.2007 at 14:03:36 -0600, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does qmail have the ability to block all email concerning replacing sednmail in base? it's not built in (qmail is intended to be lean), but you could give it a shot using eg. netqmail + qmail-scanner. Best,

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-12-01 Thread Pieter Verberne
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 03:34:11PM -0800, Bryan Irvine wrote: On Nov 30, 2007 3:19 PM, Andrew Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't such reasoning about a gift apply equally to a BSD-license on free-as-in-beer software? Andrew Ruscica wrote: ... Why the Public Domain Isn't a License

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-12-01 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:27:32AM -0800, Matthew Dempsky wrote: Is there any interest in replacing sendmail with it to remove another component from the src/gnu/ hierarchy? I strongly recommend against this. There's no need for it, and anyone who insists on running qmail (a course of action

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-12-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 30/11/2007, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strangely, it appears that you have no right put something in the public domain, it just happens 70 years after you die. (Copyright lawyers feel free to chime in here) Says who? Strangely, this is not how it works. Any copyright owner can

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Marco Peereboom
Does qmail have the ability to block all email concerning replacing sednmail in base? On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:27:32AM -0800, Matthew Dempsky wrote: Dan Bernstein has placed qmail 1.03 into the public domain (see http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html). Is there any interest in replacing sendmail

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Andrew Hart
Wouldn't such reasoning about a gift apply equally to a BSD-license on free-as-in-beer software? Andrew Ruscica wrote: ... Why the Public Domain Isn't a License (Linux Journal) http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6225 From the article: ... Unfortunately, such gifts are illusory. Under basic

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Bryan Irvine
No, I think you missed the point of the article. It's trying to say that you retain copyright like a sticky booger. Merely saying 'this stuff is in public domain now' is not enough to make it so. Strangely, it appears that you have no right put something in the public domain, it just happens 70

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Pieter Verberne
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 01:45:02PM -0500, Andrew Ruscica wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:27:32AM -0800, Matthew Dempsky wrote: Dan Bernstein has placed qmail 1.03 into the public domain (see http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html). Might be worthwhile reading this (from a US legal perspective

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Andrew Ruscica
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:27:32AM -0800, Matthew Dempsky wrote: Dan Bernstein has placed qmail 1.03 into the public domain (see http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html). Might be worthwhile reading this (from a US legal perspective at least): Why the Public Domain Isn't a License (Linux Journal)

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread STeve Andre'
On Friday 30 November 2007 10:50:09 Gregory Edigarov wrote: Pete Vickers wrote: In case it's needed (which I doubt), I'll voice my VERY strongly preference for sendmail instead of all these other pretenders. I agree. Please do not remove sendmail. it is the most advanced opensourced

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Ralph Gessner
Matthew Dempsky schrieb: Is there any interest in replacing sendmail with it to remove another component from the src/gnu/ hierarchy? No. In ports yes, in base no. I don't see any advantage switching from sendmail to qmail. ...and yes, i know qmail. It was the first mailserver i get in

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Pete Vickers
In case it's needed (which I doubt), I'll voice my VERY strongly preference for sendmail instead of all these other pretenders. /Pete On 30 Nov 2007, at 10:25 AM, Matthew Dempsky wrote: On 11/30/07, Peter Hessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That being said, its really easy to install qmail

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Gregory Edigarov
Pete Vickers wrote: In case it's needed (which I doubt), I'll voice my VERY strongly preference for sendmail instead of all these other pretenders. I agree. Please do not remove sendmail. it is the most advanced opensourced mailer, I do strongly prefer it. -- With best regards, Gregory

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Eric Ziegast
Frans Haarman wrote: Did he change his djbdns license as well !? From the Google Video (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Bernstein+releases+code+public+domain)... After talking about shortcomings of BSD/GNU licensing... ... as a result of seeing this mess for some decades and thinking

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Frans Haarman
On Nov 30, 2007 9:27 AM, Matthew Dempsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Bernstein has placed qmail 1.03 into the public domain (see http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html). Is there any interest in replacing sendmail with it to remove another component from the src/gnu/ hierarchy? This would be very

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On 11/30/07, Peter Hessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That being said, its really easy to install qmail yourself and have it replace the in-tree sendmail (see mailer.conf). Right, and maybe for a future OpenBSD release you could swap the placement of sendmail and qmail in that sentence. :-) To

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Hessler
qmail has a seperate set of problems beyond its license. That being said, its really easy to install qmail yourself and have it replace the in-tree sendmail (see mailer.conf). On 2007 Nov 30 (Fri) at 00:27:32 -0800 (-0800), Matthew Dempsky wrote: :Dan Bernstein has placed qmail 1.03 into the

Re: Replace sendmail with qmail?

2007-11-30 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 12:27:32AM -0800, Matthew Dempsky said that Dan Bernstein has placed qmail 1.03 into the public domain (see http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html). Is there any interest in replacing sendmail with it to remove another component from the src/gnu/ hierarchy? everyone