Re: mojibake

2012-07-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ian, ropers wrote on Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 05:23:07PM +0200: (Not sure who of you best to talk to; Regarding conference presentations, the author. All conference presentations are different and don't usually follow the www.openbsd.org site style, if such a thing even exists. Andres Perera

mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread ropers
that there was a much, much bigger problem than merely minor mojibake gobbledygook in Ingo's presentation. So I've now just gone through ALL the presentations on http://www.openbsd.org/papers/ , and I've determined that the problem is much, much smaller than it's cracked up to be in the misc thread

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
was that there was mojibake gibberish in Ingo's presentation, because the character encoding isn't specified but defaults to UTF-8 in modern browsers, while the page is actually iso-8859-1 encoded. Actually, modern browsers do not default to a particular encoding (in fact, this violates the HTML standard

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Alexander Hall
with it. So again, the complaint was that there was mojibake gibberish in Ingo's presentation, because the character encoding isn't specified but defaults to UTF-8 in modern browsers, while the page is actually iso-8859-1 encoded. Actually, modern browsers do not default to a particular encoding (in fact

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Andres Perera
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Anthony J. Bentley anthonyjbent...@gmail.com wrote: So again, the complaint was that there was mojibake gibberish in Ingo's presentation, because the character encoding isn't specified but defaults to UTF-8 in modern browsers, while the page is actually iso

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Dave Anderson
with it. So again, the complaint was that there was mojibake gibberish in Ingo's presentation, because the character encoding isn't specified but defaults to UTF-8 in modern browsers, while the page is actually iso-8859-1 encoded. Actually, modern browsers do not default to a particular encoding

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Dave Anderson writes: So, in summary, the options are: Use HTML escapes everywhere. IMO, highly impractical. Use any encoding you wish, and set a meta tag when appropriate. This is basically what we have now. (The front pages of /, /de/, /fr/ all use ISO-8859-1; /cs/ uses UTF-8; /lt/ uses

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Dave Anderson
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: Dave Anderson writes: So, in summary, the options are: Use HTML escapes everywhere. IMO, highly impractical. Use any encoding you wish, and set a meta tag when appropriate. This is basically what we have now. (The front pages of /, /de/, /fr/

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Ted Unangst
out, is bogus. Only broken browsers are broken. +pCsikoacute; - Foal. - Photo: Adam Tomkoacute; @flickr (CC)/p gods, no. html entities are the last thing I want to see. So again, the complaint was that there was mojibake gibberish in Ingo's presentation, because the character encoding isn't

Re: mojibake

2012-07-01 Thread Tomas Bodzar
support UTF-8. So again, the complaint was that there was mojibake gibberish in Ingo's presentation, because the character encoding isn't specified but defaults to UTF-8 in modern browsers, while the page is actually iso-8859-1 encoded. Actually, modern browsers do not default