Re: spamd - SPEWS status -- Fun results --

2007-02-05 Thread Bob DeBolt
Greets >> Wouldn't distributing a traplist make it prone to being poisoned? i.e. a >> pissed off spammer adding a legit email to the traplist. I plugged in the traplist recently while mostly asleep ( late night ) at the keyboard. Next day I spen an hour and a half examining my mail server beca

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-05 Thread Craig Skinner
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 10:46:02AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I really think spammers don't give a damn about coming back to deliver > e-mail properly. The new breed of spammers uses botnets to deliver their > crap. And since those systems are not theirs and that bandwidth is not > theirs, t

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-05 Thread Bob Beck
* smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-02-01 17:15]: > On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:38:37 -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote > > May be if there was a way to distribute one own addition only may be > > a good idea as then we could merge traplist from multiple locations > > if one wants to do this. I wouldn't have

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-05 Thread Csillag Tamas
On 02/01, Bob Beck wrote: > Yeah, probably time to retire spews, they aren't going > to fix it. > > Aside from my traplist (which I'll add) anyone have > any suggestions for useful addtions when I commit this? I seldom > use exernally maintained blacklists anymore :) > > -Bob

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/02/03 10:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Second rule: > Those who do send spam should be blocked from sending e-mail until they > have cleaned their system. And I know, most people that are infected by > a Trojan sending spam, do not know how to get rid of it. Providers > should deliver some

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-03 Thread Nils.Reuvers
I really think spammers don't give a damn about coming back to deliver e-mail properly. The new breed of spammers uses botnets to deliver their crap. And since those systems are not theirs and that bandwidth is not theirs, they write software to act as a proper mail server. That means, they come ba

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-02 Thread Rod Dorman
On Friday, February 2, 2007, 04:02:38, Gregory Edigarov wrote: > ... > Yeah, greylisting is good, but this is for only short while, I am > afraid. My measurements telling me that spamers are adapting quicker > then somebody expected. > > It seems like their soft started analyzing the return c

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Pruett
It seems like their soft started analyzing the return codes, and so they are resending their mail after a short while. So I think blacklisting is still in rule. -- Since greylisting has become more defacto, I have seen more successfull 411 like spam squeezing through "legitimate" email serv

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-02 Thread Gregory Edigarov
Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: the only blacklist i use is one i generate for a chunk of the OptInBig.com TLDs. besides that, greylisting does a great job. Yeah, greylisting is good, but this is for only short while, I am afraid. My measurements telling me that spamers are adapting quicker then

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-01 Thread Holger Mauermann
Bob Beck wrote: > Aside from my traplist (which I'll add) anyone have > any suggestions for useful addtions when I commit this? I seldom > use exernally maintained blacklists anymore :) I use a script that extracts addresses from the blacklist at http://www.heise.de/ix/nixspam/dnsbl_en/. It

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Ouellet
smith wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:38:37 -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote May be if there was a way to distribute one own addition only may be a good idea as then we could merge traplist from multiple locations if one wants to do this. I wouldn't have any objection to make mine available if that h

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-01 Thread smith
On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:38:37 -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote > May be if there was a way to distribute one own addition only may be > a good idea as then we could merge traplist from multiple locations > if one wants to do this. I wouldn't have any objection to make mine > available if that help. >

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-01 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Daniel Ouellet wrote: Bob Beck wrote: Yeah, probably time to retire spews, they aren't going to fix it. Aside from my traplist (which I'll add) anyone have any suggestions for useful addtions when I commit this? I seldom use exernally maintained blacklists anymore :) -Bob Not that

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-01 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thursday 01 February 2007 09:25, Bob Beck wrote: > Yeah, probably time to retire spews, they aren't going > to fix it. > > Aside from my traplist (which I'll add) anyone have > any suggestions for useful addtions when I commit this? I seldom > use exernally maintained blacklists

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-01 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Bob Beck wrote: Yeah, probably time to retire spews, they aren't going to fix it. Aside from my traplist (which I'll add) anyone have any suggestions for useful addtions when I commit this? I seldom use exernally maintained blacklists anymore :) -Bob Not that it ca

Re: spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-01 Thread Bob Beck
Yeah, probably time to retire spews, they aren't going to fix it. Aside from my traplist (which I'll add) anyone have any suggestions for useful addtions when I commit this? I seldom use exernally maintained blacklists anymore :) -Bob * Josh Grosse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

spamd - SPEWS status

2007-02-01 Thread Josh Grosse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 1) According to www.spews.org, the text files for SPEWS level 1 and 2 have not been updated since August, 2006. 2) There has been much discussion of this in both news.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting, and in news.admin.net-abuse.email. 3) As of today, SO