You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a shell is, how a program
executes, and how arguments to that program are passed.
You pass arguments to a program through a SINGLE ARRAY.
This is true in every operating system.
Stop advocating for things you don’t understand.
> On Nov 19, 2021,
On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 03:00:18AM +1100, Reuben ua Bríġ wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 18:12:26 +1100
> > From: Reuben ua Bríġ
> >
> > Next I would change the shell to pass as a parameter an array of
> > bits describing which arguments are expanded from patterns and
> > therefore definitely fi
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 06:12:26PM +1100, Reuben ua Bríġ wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Thanks for your message which was the most helpful.
> I only just read it on marc.info.
> MS which serves the ANU mail is withholding mail.
>
> I include some musings on rc that mightnt have made it to the list.
>
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 03:10:42PM +0100, Kusalananda Kähäri wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 08:58:00PM +1100, Reuben ua Bríġ wrote:
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> > f=* sed -f$f
>
> In sh (inserts -f as a separate argument before each name that * expands
> to):
>
> set -- *
> for name do
>
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 08:58:00PM +1100, Reuben ua Bríġ wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 10:23:51 +0100
> > From: Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
> >
> > What was the thing about "/" and "ti"?
>
> I might a lot of typos. by "ti" I meant "2". I had the glob "2/*" which
> includes a "/". My point was
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 07:34:58PM +1059, Reuben ua Bríġ wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:30:44 +0100
> > From: Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
> >
> > Ah, so you are talking about options that takes multiple
> > option-arguments.
>
> That roughly correct for what I was saying about lists, but te
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 02:40:45PM +1059, Reuben ua Bríġ wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 21:20:36 +0100
> > From: Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
> >
> > > all very well if you only need one array of strings, but useless if
> > > you need more.
> >
> > What is the "more" you need?
>
> A greater
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 03:14:16AM +1100, Reuben ua Bríġ wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 01:30:25 +1100
> > From: Reuben ua Bríġ
> >
> > Does anyone know of any shell and utilities where, for example, if
> >
> > -rf
> >
> > is a file name, the rm utility will understand so, and not think
If you want to experiment in that direction, Tom Duff's 'rc' shell
has 'list of words' as a primative, and avoids re-parsing strings.
See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rc
for more information. There doesn't seem to be an OpenBSD port of rc
(but there is 'es', which claims to be derived from rc).
Reuben ua Bríġ wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 09:34:21 -0700
> > From: "Theo de Raadt"
> >
> > Oh you want magic
> >
> > you'll find it next to the ponies.
>
> This is not magic. It is syntax. Or is C also "magic"?
>
> The shell is the one that expands *. The shell knows they are files. It
Reuben ua Bríġ wrote:
> I felt a more elegant solution would be a shell that can pass an array
> of strings as an argument, just as C can, and knows when to do so,
> rather than having each string as an argument. I wanted to know if
> there is already a shell that accomplishes that.--No need to r
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 01:38:14AM +1100, Reuben ua Bríġ wrote:
| > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 01:30:25 +1100
| > From: Reuben ua Bríġ
| >
| > Does anyone know of any shell and utilities where, for example, if
| >
| > -rf
| >
| > is a file name, the rm utility will understand so, and not think
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 01:30:25 +1100, Reuben ua =?UTF-8?B?QnLDrcSh?= wrote:
> Does anyone know of any shell and utilities where, for example, if
>
> -rf
>
> is a file name, the rm utility will understand so, and not think it is
> a controlling flag (ugh! in-band signalling)? One where an array
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