Re: Blocking p2p via pf

2005-10-11 Thread Jason Dixon
On Oct 11, 2005, at 11:15 AM, David Elze wrote: Hi, I'm trying to block p2p traffic via pf on OpenBSD 3.x. Unfortunately, all new p2p-clients are able to use dynamic ports or even (ab-)use http-ports etc. so blocking well known p2p-ports is not enough.

Re: Blocking p2p via pf

2005-10-11 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Jason Dixon wrote: On Oct 11, 2005, at 11:15 AM, David Elze wrote: Hi, I'm trying to block p2p traffic via pf on OpenBSD 3.x. Unfortunately, all new p2p-clients are able to use dynamic ports or even (ab-)use http-ports etc. so blocking well known p2p-ports is

Re: Blocking p2p via pf

2005-10-11 Thread Stuart Henderson
--On 11 October 2005 17:15 +0200, David Elze wrote: Apart from blocking ports I just see two possibilities: [..] You might investigate how many source states users would normally use for permitted protocols, how many states are involved with non-permitted use, and (ab?)use max-src-states

Re: Blocking p2p via pf

2005-10-11 Thread Marc L'Heureux
I don't know if pf can do this, but I've seen ISPs throttle connections the longer they're open. This allows legitimate traffic like HTTP to get their small webpage, but larger downloads (such as P2P, but also large HTTP downloads) take exponentially longer. This can still be circumvented by

Re: Blocking p2p via pf

2005-10-11 Thread Nick Holland
David Elze wrote: Hi, I'm trying to block p2p traffic via pf on OpenBSD 3.x. Unfortunately, all new p2p-clients are able to use dynamic ports or even (ab-)use http-ports etc. so blocking well known p2p-ports is not enough. yep. Apart from blocking ports I just see two possibilities: -

Re: Blocking p2p via pf

2005-10-11 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:24:01 -0400, Nick Holland wrote: David Elze wrote: Hi, I'm trying to block p2p traffic via pf on OpenBSD 3.x. Unfortunately, all new p2p-clients are able to use dynamic ports or even (ab-)use http-ports etc. so blocking well known p2p-ports is not enough. yep.

Re: Blocking p2p via pf

2005-10-11 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: Nick Holland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Theoretically, this is a weak solution. However, PRACTICALLY speaking, it's simple and very effective. Other than blocked services opening up alternative entry points, I've not actually seen anyone bypass this system in real life (for example,