Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-27 Thread Sean M. Pappalardo - D.J. Pegasus
Hello again, Be. (BTW, I prefer to call them 'presets' because a 'mapping' implies a one-to-one relationship which is not necessarily the case when JS is involved. Call them what you like. :) ) On 11/22/2015 02:22 PM, Be wrote: > Reviewers have been saying for years that the haphazard controller

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-22 Thread Tuukka Pasanen
Hello, Yes it's matter of what we want. Do we want some controllers be first class citizen (like we do now) or do we want to take leap to next level. We could also ask for sponsor for the project but again it's just what we want and is being someone slave without real benefit what Mixxx needs.

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-22 Thread Daniel Schürmann
Hi Tuukka, this is not an easy question. There will be a benefit for the manufacturer if we build a first class mapping for one, but not for an other. If we by a controller via the normal distribution chain, there are many parties which earn money from that. This feels like a bead deal compared t

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-22 Thread Tuukka Pasanen
Hello, Should we have some fundraiser to buy some controllers for devs to make good mappings for the high-end contollers? Tuukka 23.11.2015, 00:22, Be kirjoitti: > (I'm consoldiating these related threads into one.) > > On 11/19/2015 08:18 PM, RJ Ryan wrote: > > > The standards are much lower

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines, old hardware

2015-11-22 Thread Be
Hi RAWRR, thanks for your input. To be clear, I am not advocating for supporting newer controllers merely for the sake of newness. I am advocating for that because controllers have gotten better and cheaper over the years and people outside of the bubble of current Mixxx users are more likely t

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines, old hardware

2015-11-22 Thread re-cycle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My two cents, Be: I've been using Mixxx once a month or so every month for the last five years, and was interested in it before then even. I love this program and admire the developer community enormously. I shop for controllers by form factor and fe

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-22 Thread Be
(I'm consoldiating these related threads into one.) On 11/19/2015 08:18 PM, RJ Ryan wrote: > The standards are much lower since there is little risk to doing so. If > we took in C++ patches without review we could cause crashes or actual > damage to the user's computer. The sandboxed environme

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-22 Thread Be
On 11/20/2015 10:53 AM, Sean M. Pappalardo - D.J. Pegasus wrote: > On 11/19/2015 11:06 PM, Be wrote: >> Also, what devices do people want supported? IMO it is a big problem >> that Mixxx lacks much support for popular brands that make quality >> hardware that is commercially available today. Wher

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-20 Thread Sean M. Pappalardo - D.J. Pegasus
On 11/19/2015 11:06 PM, Be wrote: > Also, what devices do people want supported? IMO it is a big problem > that Mixxx lacks much support for popular brands that make quality > hardware that is commercially available today. Where is the support > for contemporary Native Instruments, Pioneer, Aka

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-19 Thread Be
This Docuwiki plugin looks helpful: https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:discussion On 11/16/2015 05:22 AM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > Hello, > GIT would be best solution but probably will fail the reason you > mentioned.. should we use pages talk-version as new stuff incubator and > then add it to main

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-19 Thread Be
On 11/19/2015 08:47 PM, RJ Ryan wrote: > Hi Be, > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Be mailto:b...@gmx.com>> > wrote: > > I'm concerned about having mapping developers not be involved in the > development workflow. How can we expect mappings to be maintained > and keep up with new fea

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-19 Thread RJ Ryan
Hi Be, On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Be wrote: > I'm concerned about having mapping developers not be involved in the > development workflow. How can we expect mappings to be maintained and keep > up with new features in Mixxx if they aren't? Moreover, how can we expect > them to be documente

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-19 Thread Be
I'm concerned about having mapping developers not be involved in the development workflow. How can we expect mappings to be maintained and keep up with new features in Mixxx if they aren't? Moreover, how can we expect them to be documented? There are many undocumented mappings included in Mixxx

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-19 Thread RJ Ryan
Hi Be / Tuukka, Sorry for missing this discussion. This is a great topic to have guidelines around. I'm concerned about expecting the preset contributor to be involved in our development workflow (Git, GitHub). This is a high bar that's going to exclude a large portion of our user base from parti

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-16 Thread Tuukka Pasanen
Hello, GIT would be best solution but probably will fail the reason you mentioned.. should we use pages talk-version as new stuff incubator and then add it to main page? Tuukka 13.11.2015, 09:06, Be kirjoitti: > Interesting idea, but I'm concerned that requiring people to do more > work to upd

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-12 Thread Be
Interesting idea, but I'm concerned that requiring people to do more work to update the wiki would keep people away from contributing to the wiki more. On 11/13/2015 01:01 AM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > Hello, > Dokuwiki also have markdown support with plugin so should we have > 'original' in githu

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-12 Thread Tuukka Pasanen
Hello, Dokuwiki also have markdown support with plugin so should we have 'original' in github as rst-file (If we like translations also). Then we could have these as base for Dokuwiki then use normal Pull Requests to update those. Little bit double effort but as Be said more qualified documenta

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-12 Thread Be
Thanks. I propose adopting this as our procedure for writing documentation when the author is not very comfortable with English: 1. Original author writes documentation to the best of their ability 2. Original author posts on this mailing list or submits a pull request asking for someone who kno

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-12 Thread Tuukka Pasanen
Hello, Ok I updated Wiki someone with better understanding English should read it (and correct it) and everyone else also because we have to maintain these conventions. Tuukka 12.11.2015, 15:17, Be kirjoitti: > > > On 11/12/2015 12:32 AM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: >> Hello, >> Sorry this is lacking

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-12 Thread Be
On 11/12/2015 12:32 AM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > Hello, > Sorry this is lacking time of time but we should update wiki with these > tools I think: > XML: > libxml 'xmllint -format' > or > http://www.freeformatter.com/xml-formatter.html (with '2 spaces per > indent level') > > Javascript: > at

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-11-11 Thread Tuukka Pasanen
Hello, Sorry this is lacking time of time but we should update wiki with these tools I think: XML: libxml 'xmllint -format' or http://www.freeformatter.com/xml-formatter.html (with '2 spaces per indent level') Javascript: at least header: /

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-10-24 Thread Be
Seems like a good idea to require new scripts to use strict. On 10/24/2015 10:06 AM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > Hi, > Can we expect them to use 'use strict'? In Perl that makes most of stupid > coding conventions disappear. More on topic: > http://ejohn.org/blog/ecmascript-5-strict-mode-json-and-more

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-10-23 Thread Be
That was already on Controller Mapping File Locations page, but now that you mention it, I moved it to the Contributing Mappings page. On 10/23/2015 12:29 AM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > Hi, > I'll try to come up with small template. Should we announce of naming > scheme at wiki as it seems to be: >

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-10-22 Thread Tuukka Pasanen
Hi, I'll try to come up with small template. Should we announce of naming scheme at wiki as it seems to be: 'Manucfacturer-Sellingname-Typenumber-scripts.js' and 'Manufacturer Sellingname Typenumber-midi.xml'. Tuukka 23.10.2015, 08:04, Be kirjoitti: > No, there is not. It would be great if you

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-10-22 Thread Be
No, there is not. It would be great if you made these templates. We could ship them with Mixxx and tell users on the wiki to look at those templates. On 10/22/2015 11:58 PM, Tuukka Pasanen wrote: > Hello, > Yes we have to express minumun requirements for javascript and XML. Is > there possibilit

Re: [Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-10-22 Thread Tuukka Pasanen
Hello, Yes we have to express minumun requirements for javascript and XML. Is there possibility have template js and XML with proper naming scheme or is there anyt similiarities with these files. I have to investigate this template thing. Tuukka 23.10.2015, 06:56, Be kirjoitti: > I started a s

[Mixxx-devel] controller mapping guidelines

2015-10-22 Thread Be
I started a section on the Contributing Mappings wiki page (http://mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/contributing_mappings ) with guidelines for designing mappings. If you would like to add to or change them, discuss it here or edit the wiki. --