Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Cool. Pine On Oct 8, 2015 8:05 AM, "Jon Katz" wrote: > FYI. Google just announced an open source project to create a speedier > framework for mobile browsing. It might be worth looking at what they're > doing: > > From: > >

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Best big-picture article I saw on it last night was http://www.niemanlab.org/2015/10/get-ampd-heres-what-publishers-need-to-know-about-googles-new-plan-to-speed-up-your-website/ On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Jon Katz wrote: > FYI. Google just announced an open source

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Some interesting stuff from Google

Yes, the Niemanlab summary is really informative. Read it last night and this part kind of jumped out at me: *"There are lots of clever ideas here, and it’s understandable why these constraints would help improve performance. For better and for worse, this is essentially a rollback of how HTML

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Some interesting stuff from Google

I had instant flashbacks to WAP 2.0 when I read about AMP.. Let’s make a variant of normal websites, that solves problems for mobile, by limiting options on authors and readers alike.. Past experience shows that this just doesn’t work. At least not for those parties that are already no able to

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Thanks Bryan and Pine. My feeling is that there are many many new interfaces and form factors emerging right now and we should be cautious about adoption. For example Facebook's instant articles, apple news and even snapchat have similar offerings the AMP. They all seem to be focusing on article

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Some interesting stuff from Google

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Pine W wrote: > Hi Bryan, > > Ah, I was thinking of the 2 different mobile web editing experiences (not 2 > different apps) for Android depending on form factor. My understanding is > that tablets have VE enabled on mobile web now (I have yet

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Some interesting stuff from Google

And, upon rereading Bryan's most recent email, I'm not sure that I'm interpreting it correctly, which probably means that I should be quiet and listen to those who know more about this subject than I do. Pine On Oct 8, 2015 4:32 PM, "Pine W" wrote: > Aha, that might make

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Some interesting stuff from Google

Aha, that might make sense. Would it be worth WMF time to discuss the possibilities (cynical and benevolent) with them via an in-person contact? In general I am less suspicious of Google than I am of some other big Web companies, although perhaps my trust is misplaced. Pine On Oct 8, 2015 3:30

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Toby - I'm generally 1000% on-board with slow follower for anything user-facing. The only reason I might make an exception here is because the competitors you mention are all pretty awful for the web generally, and this has uptake already from Google and Twitter. (Two isn't great, but two + slim

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Some interesting stuff from Google

Hi Bryan, Ah, I was thinking of the 2 different mobile web editing experiences (not 2 different apps) for Android depending on form factor. My understanding is that tablets have VE enabled on mobile web now (I have yet to try it) while phones do not have VE enabled on mobile web yet. Pine On Oct

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

Hi Luis -- I honestly don't see a lot of difference between Google, Twitter and Facebook, since they are all ad supported entities with a fiscal responsibility to track their users and sell the data. Apple's a bit different on the surface since they have a different business model. I agree that

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Some interesting stuff from Google

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Pine W wrote: > We currently have at least 6 channels, I believe: > > 1. Desktop Web > 2. Mobile Web > 3. Android phone > 4. Android tablet I don't think that we have separate native apps for the phone and tablet form factors. > 5. IPhone >