[WikimediaMobile] Re: generic MediaWiki editing app?

2022-01-27 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Il 27/01/22 09:57, Željko Blaće ha scritto: Was there any effort in that direction at any point? A "generic app" is also known as "a website". (Though new marketing names get invented every other month.) If I remember correctly, most of the recent work towards a true mobile-friendly skin ha

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Stats & data from launch of Suggested Edits on Wikipedia Android app

2019-05-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Mikhail Popov, 10/05/19 23:37: “Okay, so what’s the quality of those 200-400 descriptions being added every day?” you might ask. Well, one way we can check that is to check how many of those edits are reverted within 48 hours. Turns out, almost none of them: Are we talking about these edits?

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Reading experience improvements on mobile are live

2019-04-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Volker E., 18/04/19 04:57: Technically we're applying an operating system font first stack for running text [...] This sounds good, but can you elaborate on whether having just "sans-serif" would achieve such result without all those hardcoded font names? From the linked task, page, talk pa

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Print styles reminder

2017-12-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Chris Koerner, 01/11/2017 00:34: Hey Nemo, Is the request to better document the print CSS styles in MediaWiki and skins? Is that correct? If you expect something from local editors, yes. If the software adapts to what is there then maybe not. Federico Chris Koerner, 05/10/2017 22:32

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Sunsetting Trending Edits Service before the holiday

2017-12-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Corey Floyd, 01/12/2017 22:30: The experimental Trending Service[1] will be sunset on December 14th, 2017. We initially deployed this service to evaluate some real time features in the mobile apps centered on delivering more timely information to users. After some research [2], we found that i

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Print styles reminder

2017-10-31 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Chris Koerner, 05/10/2017 22:32: [1]https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Print_Styles#Desktop_Printing This and do not provide much clarity, at least to me. If there are some recommendations/requests for local CSS/HTML styles

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia app v5.5.0 for iOS released to beta

2017-06-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Joshua Minor, 08/06/2017 00:53: The Places feature currently uses the iOS provided Apple MapKit library and Apple maps. This is not a decision the team made easily, but after much feedback and research, we believe this is the only option for now. A couple important notes: 1. This is only use

[WikimediaMobile] Wiki-specific parsing in mobile "services"

2017-01-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Is it considered acceptable now to produce a service or API that hardcodes wiki-specific parsing of certain wikitext or HTML patterns in certain wiki pages (such as the "On this day" section of the main page of one wiki)? I'm confused by the status of things and after my comment https://phabr

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-l] 2017-01-04 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2017-01-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2017-01-04#Web mentions a next sprint about MobileFrontend technical debt. How can one propose tickets for such sprint? Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.w

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readership metrics for the timespan until July 31, 2016

2016-08-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks. Tilman Bayer, 08/08/2016 22:41: Daily unique devices estimate for English Wikipedia: Is this a median of the daily figure over the course of the month, an average or what? various countries. Unfortunately this public attention has not translated into a lot of downloads - we estimat

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Reading team updates from last quarter and planning for next quarter

2016-08-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Deferring the loading of images is fine, but doing the same for references raises tons of questions. I wrote down the most obvious ones to start with: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Reading/Web/Projects/Performance/Lazy_loading_references Nemo Moushira Elamrawy, 10/08/2016 00:44: Good d

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: geo search is now live

2016-07-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Interesting, I forwarded to OSM talk-it. I now notice it also works for the crosswiki/interproject search, finding results in Wikivoyage: https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Ricerca&profile=default&fulltext=Search&search=villa+neartitle%3A10km%2CEsino_Lario Nemo ___

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikibooks APIs

2016-04-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Barbara Martina Rodeker, 07/04/2016 16:59: I need some pieces of advise about where to go for documentation about Wikibooks APIs. If anybody could point me to some links to start with I'll be very grateful. What I would like to do if to access wikibooks lists / categories / access a particul

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikidata] weekly summary #201

2016-03-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
# MusicBrainz now uses Wikidata to fetch images for their entities Fantastic! Now we only need to do the same on Wikimedia wikis. :) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95026 Nemo ___

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readership metrics for the two months until February 7, 2016

2016-02-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Oliver Keyes, 19/02/2016 13:51: a lot of prominent countries were very close to the 50% switchover, including (interestingly) Italy. I compiled some links at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:The_sudden_decline_of_Italian_Wikipedia#Scratchpad on the likely social reasons. Pew researc

[WikimediaMobile] Someone please announce/explain T119235 (RESTBase for Wiktionary)

2016-02-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
All my requests were ignored: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119235#1951362 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123142#2025816 https://en.wiktionary.org/api/rest_v1/?doc#!/Page_content/get_page_definition_term appeared but nobody bothered to tell people and plans for the thing seem to be unk

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Added MediaWiki parser analysis to the content analysis report

2016-01-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Joaquin Oltra Hernandez, 20/01/2016 16:55: We've added Mediawiki parser content analysis to the content analysis report that the Reading web team performed last quarter. Thanks. It would be useful to understand what your dataset is: I see 9 page titles, presumably fetched from the English Wiki

Re: [WikimediaMobile] "Free Basics" Facebook in India under review by government

2015-12-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Joaquin Oltra Hernandez, 24/12/2015 11:57: In addition, it has texted users and shown a notice when locals sign into its platform urging them to contact TRAI and tell it they support the Free Basics initiative. A bit like Wikipedia Zero links https://zero.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ZeroPortal

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Some interesting stuff from Google

2015-12-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Luis Villa, 09/12/2015 21:41: FWIW, Google appears to be serious about this: http://searchengineland.com/google-amp-coming-rank-fast-238046 How does that different from their long-standing habit of sending Google search mobile users to Google caches or other stripped down versions of websites

[WikimediaMobile] Mobile slows down (annual global ICT data)

2015-12-08 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Latest data show that growth in Internet use has slowed down, however, posting 6.9% global growth in 2015, after 7.4% growth in 2014. Nonetheless, the number of Internet users in developing countries has almost doubled in the past five years (2010-2015), with two thirds of all people online now

Re: [WikimediaMobile] "Ambient Details from Wikipedia" (third-party Blackberry app)

2015-10-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Tilman Bayer, 26/10/2015 01:11: FYI, there's a new commercial app ($0.99) that offers a Nearby-like functionality on Blackberry: Thanks. I wrote the author and he confirms he's calling the MediaWiki API on each Wikipedia subdomain, but he refused to say which API module (I think he's not used

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] Pageview drop

2015-10-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
TL;DR: never underestimate https://xkcd.com/214/ ? :) We must be careful NOT to provide users [only] what they are looking for. Toby Negrin, 14/10/2015 07:43: There's a strange artifact in the desktop page views where they drop by about 75mm at the end of 2013 but don't recover. Do we understan

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Android Wikipedia beta app release (2.1.131-beta-2015-09-28)

2015-09-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Stephen Niedzielski, 29/09/2015 02:54: * Completely reworked Nearby screen! View the locations of nearby Wikipedia articles overlaid onto an *interactive map*. Explore Wikipedia articles near your current location, or pan & zoom the map to explore articles in any other part of the world

Re: [WikimediaMobile] What people think about Wikidata descriptions in search on mobile web beta, and a question about "arbitrary access" of Wikidata data

2015-08-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jane Darnell, 15/08/2015 08:53: Yes but even if the descriptions were just the contents of fields separated by a pipe it would be better than nothing. +1, item descriptions are mostly useless in my experience. As for "get into production on Wikipedia" I don't know what it means, I certainly d

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: Interesting WSJ article: "The Rise of Phone Reading"

2015-08-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Corey Floyd, 18/08/2015 06:13: When reviewing these stats, we should keep in mind the primary use case of Wikipedia - a reference. We also have Wikisource. Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mail

Re: [WikimediaMobile] event logging bloat

2015-08-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Gergo Tisza, 11/08/2015 22:44: replace the user agent and the URL with an empty string. Is there still no way to avoid storing those fields altogether? They are both nasty. Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.

Re: [WikimediaMobile] whitelist for UI translation

2015-08-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 09/08/2015 09:06: Can anybody please remind me why do we have a whitelist for languages into which the Wikipedia apps can be translated? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38264 is still open but not clear why. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T70299 is the other issue. Nem

Re: [WikimediaMobile] In-app editing / talk pages support

2015-07-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Garry, 25/07/2015 02:38: But, there are some pretty fundamental formatting issues with talk pages in the app right now. Do you mean the templates should be uncollapsed by default? That could help, but they're fine like that as well. Nemo ___

Re: [WikimediaMobile] In-app editing / talk pages support

2015-07-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
for savvy readers they offer useful commentary about what's on (or off) the page and why. Yes. And this doesn't require any special magic: wikitext pages are equally ready to be read whether they are in namespace 1 or in namespace 0. Nemo ___ Mobil

Re: [WikimediaMobile] data about anonymous mobile web editing

2015-07-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 23/07/2015 18:05: Are there published up-to-date statistics about this? Reverts of anonymous mobile web edits, etc.? There's the good old https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/PlotsPngEditHistoryAll.htm A proposal/draft lives at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Mobile_anonym

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Extension Responsibility

2015-07-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Adam Baso, 20/07/2015 22:58: I think we should move the page to mw:Reading/Extension_Responsibility. Or better, merge with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://list

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Freedom of Panorama banner campaign breaking mobile

2015-06-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 30/06/2015 23:49: Please also reach out to us on the mobile-l mailing list ahead of running these campaigns That's not a reasonable request. Sitenotices run all the time. CentralNotices are scheduled on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CentralNotice/Calendar Nemo ___

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Android Wikipedia beta app release (2.0.104-beta-2015-06-25)

2015-06-25 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Stephen Niedzielski, 26/06/2015 04:20: * Fix certain ISBN number links I see it was more than that, all special pages! https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/rAPAW647a53d3ea896c3c66805fd65726852d126f48f5 Was this reported against the mobileview API as well? Having a complete map of gaps and d

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [reading-wmf] A plan for the "new" mobile view service

2015-06-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Gergo Tisza, 12/06/2015 03:51: Editors would write something like this in the source code: '''Vincent Willem van Gogh''' {{#snippet|role=pronunciation|IPA=ˈvɪnsɛnt ˈʋɪləm vɑn ˈɣɔx}}{{#snippet|role=birth and death|birth=30 March 1853|death=29 July 1890}} was a major [[Post-Impressionist]] painter

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Usability of the hamburger icon

2015-05-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Pine W, 16/05/2015 05:44: BBC article for those who are interested: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31602745 «On apps, translating simple words and phrases such as "menu" or "send to printer" - known as "localisation" is costly and can cause problems.» On the bright side, we're not using t

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Removing upload interface code from MobileFrontend

2015-05-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 12/05/2015 13:26: Note: Special:Upload currently works on mobile (well any device that supports it). Not sure what work is seen as required there... Then kill the custom interface, link Special:Upload from the menu as normal. Bugs can be filed iteratively. Nemo _

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Skynet is winning the battle on IRC

2015-04-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bryan Davis, 30/04/2015 22:42: My only $0.02 is that pushing bots to another channel generally ends up being functionally the same as muting the bots entirely unless people setup watches on particular words to see pings from them. And I'll point out that if you want to move bots then the easies

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Anonymous editing impact on mobile

2015-04-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks for numbers. Jon Robson, 29/04/2015 02:00: * Edits from logged in users down 152% * First edits by logged in users down 176% (although this could arguably be said to be compensated by anonymous edits) These are good, not bad. We are forcing less people to register who didn't want to.

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikimedia-l] Google rankings and mobile phone support`

2015-04-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Minh Nguyen, 28/04/2015 09:36: Therefore any problems on these portals are unlikely to ding individual articles, which generally pass the test. [2] Not to mention that some portals would use *less* visits than they have, for instance the fact that 1/3 of our pageviews from India goes to the p

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Moderation tools [was Re: Commons Reloaded]

2015-04-22 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
(We're vastly offtopic on this list.) Luis Villa, 22/04/2015 19:48: moderation tools are definitely one of the things the team could tackle. From what I recall of Lila's speech in Milan, that team is designed to respond to community requests/needs. Not to technical debt created by the latest

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Collections is more popular than watchlist... so far ; -)

2015-04-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 15/04/2015 20:25: 1117 known users have used the watchlist as a bookmarking tool for jumping to pages [1] whereas 1090 have used it to get to diffs, so there is thus mounting evidence to show there is a need for a reader version of the watchlist. ...or that users are confused and do

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Commons Reloaded

2015-04-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Magnus Manske, 16/04/2015 11:02: There is no "fear" of more Commons users; there is (valid) concern that Commons will get a large influx of pictures from one-time users Let's not mix things up, I'm not aware of such a concern. Once again: the old mobile upload campaign attracted a lot of garba

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Stripping content inside brackets from the first sentence of articles

2015-04-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Garry, 09/04/2015 06:45: agreed. has that happened? This is something that needs community discussion on-wiki as well as announcement on wikitech-ambassadors@lists.w.o I am interested in constructive feedback and discussion on how to solve the problem of first sentences not bein

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Read next vs Read more: the verdict

2015-03-21 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Garry, 21/03/2015 06:29: So it would seem that read next is not as effective at driving clicks as read more is. Interesting! Please make sure to add a very understandable qqq message documentation for "Read more". The word "more" is extremely hard to translate, I see horribly incorrect tr

[WikimediaMobile] Restoring anon editing on all mobile sites by March

2015-03-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93210 for details. Quoting from the discussion: «As of today, there is broad consensus in support of the proposal, as discussed by an ample spectrum of users active in multiple wikis. Several users stressed that: talk page access is crucial, to ensure com

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
What's the scientific background of hemingwayapp? I don't see anything on their website. There is no one-size-fits-all readability algo for English, as far as I know. Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia

Re: [WikimediaMobile] "How a Chaos Monkey Created Wikipedia Mobile"

2015-02-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jeremy Baron, 10/02/2015 22:33: I'm pretty sure Hampton was ruby mobile web interface which IIRC rewrote the desktop output on the fly. For those who have forgotten, see his blog posts in 2009: https://blog.wikimedia.org/author/hcatlin/ There are some screenshots in them, as well as mentions o

Re: [WikimediaMobile] tmi (too many images)

2015-01-27 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Is this https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T68819 again? As an example, I prefer http://www.webpagetest.org/result/140527_0F_HE3/4/details/ JPG rarely get unwiedly, but it's very easy to reach multiple megabytes with a handful PNG and GIF files. On [[w:en:Barack Obama]], the biggest image (25 K

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Anonymous editing and Italian Wikipedia

2014-12-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 13/12/2014 00:15: > Can anyone from the Italian community analyse the types of anonymous > edits that were made in the month of November and comment on what % of > those got reverted / were bad edits? The impression so far is that they're as good as any other edit source. You see van

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Testing extensions together

2014-12-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Antoine Musso, 09/12/2014 16:09: The evil plan for next year, is to extend that to all extensions deployed on the Wikimedia cluster. Crazy? No, feasible! Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailm

Re: [WikimediaMobile] CommonsMetadata API returning HTML?

2014-12-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Garry, 08/12/2014 23:04: So, given that we can't do anything meaningful with the HTML in a native app, that means we only have three options: * Display the raw HTML directly to the user * Try to parse the HTML for interesting information and update the relevant view's properties usin

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Mediawiki-i18n] Analysis of the hamburger icon

2014-12-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 05/12/2014 17:56: It might be useful to try a different logo on one of the projects e.g. Japanese and see how this gets impacted by the change. If there is no drastic change we could probably conclude that indeed my comparison sucks :) We can certainly use clicks as a guideline of whe

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Analysis of the hamburger icon

2014-12-04 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 04/12/2014 20:58: My hypothesis is that if clicks to the language icon are considerably higher than clicks to the hamburger icon the less recognisable the hamburger icon is in that language. Interesting idea and nice way to get some data. However, I could speculate that if a wiki h

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] How good is our search? Here's some data!

2014-12-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Garry, 04/12/2014 03:15: # *Percentage of queries that give 0 results: *19% How many of these offered a "did you mean" alternative? Can typos on mobile increase the error rate? Nemo P.s.: Someone add this number next to the low-hanging fruit hypothesis claims. ;-) _

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Web+Apps] Introducing KPhab, our new bug migration system

2014-11-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Garry, 26/11/2014 21:07: # Kristen will volunteer to serve as Phabello for now. Say hi to KPhab! Thanks Kristen! But it's quite a waste to invest resources on new processes for soon-disbanded aims (Trello). Let's hope it lasts as little as possible. Nemo ___

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Chinese Wikipedia

2014-11-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Very interesting, thanks a lot. Jon Robson, 24/11/2014 01:20: Interestingly everyone here used Wikipedia, but when I asked them if they used the mobile site of Wikipedia they all said no. When I probed more I discovered "Google" was where they got their information. I managed to confirm that the

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Server-side face detection

2014-11-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Garry, 10/11/2014 21:25: There are tons of cards in Trello about it. If only there was a search function or dependency graph... I found some (un)related cards but not much; most related URL right now seems https://trello.com/dmitrybrant/cards That said, it may be easier for me to just

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Server-side face detection

2014-11-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Garry, 10/11/2014 20:11: If you're interested in seeing what we're talking about, try downloading the latest alpha build on to your Android device at http://android-builds.wmflabs.org/ and take a look. :-) Thanks but I don't have one. Any docs? Nemo ___

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Server-side face detection

2014-11-09 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dmitry Brant, 10/11/2014 04:41: Just throwing this out there: Would it be possible to have a script that crawls through images on Commons, detects faces in the images, and embeds the x,y position of the face(s) into the File page of the image (or into the Exif data of the image) We have https:/

Re: [WikimediaMobile] mdot webroot redirects on Wikipedia Zero

2014-10-28 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Adam Baso, 28/10/2014 21:26: Hi, just wanted to give people a heads up about language-sensitive redirects on the m.wikipedia.org/ (and zero.wikipedia.org/ ) webroot: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero/Accept-Language_Aware_Redirect

[WikimediaMobile] MobileFrontend weekly report

2014-10-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Stopped in January. http://search.gmane.org/?query=MobileFrontend+weekly+report&author=&group=gmane.org.wikimedia.mobile&sort=date&DEFAULTOP=and&xP=mobilefrontend%09Zweek%09Zreport&xFILTERS=Gorg.wikimedia.mobile---A And https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend/Deployments stopped i

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Collapsing sections in app

2014-10-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Pine W, 19/10/2014 08:28: Would it also be possible to have sections collapsed by default, as happens on mobile web? Did you read the archives first? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mobile/1045 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mobile/507 Nemo ___

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Offline-l] [KIWIX] New Version 1.91 for Android available

2014-10-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Emmanuel Engelhart, 17/10/2014 12:17: A new version of Kiwix for Android is available: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/org.kiwix.kiwixmobile You can also download it directly here: http://download.kiwix.org/bin/android/kiwix-1.91.apk This is a minor release, here is the changelog: * FIXED:

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Offline-l] [zero] Re: Thinking about offline search within our native apps

2014-10-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Tomasz Finc, 01/10/2014 23:20: In order to do this we can look at the search results on mobile (and >especially where they are failing today without GS) One of the asks that I have for the mobile teams in this quarter is to start logging failed search results. I want us to get to the point where

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Thinking about offline search within our native apps

2014-09-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dmitry Brant, 01/10/2014 01:07: Looking at the Kiwix app for Android, it doesn't seem to have full-text search within articles (unless I missed it). I assume that this was left out of the Android version for performance reasons. Don't assume, ask Emmanuel (cc Offline-l). If I understand correct

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [MobileFrontend] en.json with spaces: Special reason?

2014-09-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Florian Schmidt, 23/09/2014 22:54: en.json language file (the only one) uses whitespaces, instead of tabs, and if there was a special reason for this? If not, can we change these to tabs? Yes, just submit a patch. :-) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63444#c18 Nemo _

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Quicker = more edits on mobile

2014-09-19 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks. For reference, the tracking bug for this area is: Bug 14123 – Make MediaWiki more AJAXy https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=14123&hide_resolved=1 Hoo *tripled* the number of patrollers in en.wiki by making patrol AJAXy (bug 7851/15936), so it's definitely an area wor

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Apps] Featuring the app in Google Play

2014-09-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Garry, 15/09/2014 22:28: > Quick update, here. We received some feedback from Google Play, Nice. > and > we're working on implementing it all in this sprint. Check out our > sprint 40 Trello board > > if you want m

Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random

2014-09-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 18/09/2014 01:50: > Personally I'd love to see us combine nearby, random into some kind of > explore feature. Looks to me a totally separate use case. > We can do so much better than a button that just > takes you to a random page. RESOLVED FIXED Bug 65366 - Better Special:Random ht

Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random

2014-09-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 10:05: > WAT. > > Are these millions and millions of real people clicking Random article > all the time? Not search engines or bots or something? I have no reason to believe it's an especially inflated number: Special:Random is the most common tool for curious users in

Re: [WikimediaMobile] feedback about random

2014-09-17 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 17/09/2014 08:22: > If I recall correctly, that button was added because there were requests > for it, but was its existence ever justified? If there's interesting > data about using the "random" button, http://stats.grok.se/en/latest30/Special:Random Do you really need more? Nem

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Pulling the Commons app

2014-09-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bernd Sitzmann, 16/09/2014 22:32: > * Disable translations on translatewiki.net > for the various Commons related message > groups. [1] I already submitted https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/160831/1 Please expand/update https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Wikime

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Multimedia] Low-quality images are live

2014-09-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Tomasz Finc, 11/06/2014 22:51: >> > On a side notice I notice all images on mobile are missing a cache >> > expiration - is that intended? Also have we considered adding a header >> > Cache-Control: public to them? > This historically has been due to upstream caches not respecting > purges and our

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Nearby screenshot.

2014-09-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Garry, 20/08/2014 22:36: > On 20 August 2014 13:31, Max Semenik > wrote: > > Though feet are... US-centric:P > > > It chooses the units it shows based on the localisation of your phone. Based on CLDR, I hope? Nemo

Re: [WikimediaMobile] When is mobile search index updated?

2014-09-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
I almost had a heart attack at the phrase "mobile search index". Yuvi Panda, 25/08/2014 20:01: > It should be faster soon, with CirrusSearch just around the corner! :) We used to have a warning "have patience for 48 hours" upon missing result from Lucene, apparently it was removed at some point.

Re: [WikimediaMobile] watchlist removal on mobile web

2014-09-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Brion Vibber, 28/08/2014 18:39: > If we want to go fancy we can do something like what the Gmail app does > when archiving a thread via a swipe in the thread list: leave a > placeholder item with an 'undo' button, then collapse it later such as > when scrolling down for more mails. In case that's

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Thoughts on using different wikifont icon for TOC (Wikipedia App)

2014-09-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Monte Hurd, 23/08/2014 21:04: > When the TOC is closed it would use the one on the left, and when open the > one on the right (see attachment). (Reversed for RTL langs of course) It's understandably hard to find a good icon for the concept of TOC (thanks for working on it!), but I must say I'm no

Re: [WikimediaMobile] VisualEditor in the mobile Quora app

2014-07-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 13/07/2014 08:33: > Quora's rich text editor was always one of the best of its kind on the > web, and now it's on mobile apps, too. Any stats on effects for the activity over there? (Context: we used to have rumours of Quora having 100k monthly active users vs. our 70-80 but latel

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Translate FFS support for plurals on Android, iOS?

2014-07-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Brion Vibber, 01/07/2014 18:01: > > iOS 7/OS X 10.9 also has a 'native' way of handling plurals which > requires a second '.stringdict' output file alongside the '.strings' > file; or there are CLDR-powered compatibility libraries > like https://github.com/Smartling/ios-i18n which embed multiple m

Re: [WikimediaMobile] mobile non-app feedback

2014-06-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Florian Schmidt, 29/06/2014 03:30: I already look into MediaWiki Project:Support_desk, so, for me, it would be ok to have a look at other point of contacts, too, if it isn't too much:) Please add yourself to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/Volunteering :) Nemo __

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Tablet pageview data pre and post redirect

2014-06-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Maryana Pinchuk, 21/06/2014 00:29: 2) How has this change impacted [...] 1st time editors, active editors, etc.)? [...] we need to keep track of these users to make sure they're going through the new and active editor funnels at a reasonable rate. Nice! I think this also needs to be reflected

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Deployment of tablet redirect to mobile interface (action needed)

2014-06-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Steven Walling, 18/06/2014 21:06: You were given an answer. To repeat... The mobile report card Thanks, I know about it. https://meta.wikimedia.org/?diff=5653002 [...] mobile editing activity. [...] Which I never asked about. Steven, you clearly don't know the answer to my question, but

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Deployment of tablet redirect to mobile interface (action needed)

2014-06-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
new-look-on-tablets/ Importance of data increases: I reiterate my question, for which I had no answer. Federico Leva (Nemo), 15/06/2014 09:09: >> Will someone be monitoring the effects [if any] on editing activity >> and number of active editors/new [10+ edits] editors? &g

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Roadmap and deployment highlights - week of June 16th

2014-06-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Steven Walling, 14/06/2014 23:55: Will someone be monitoring the effects [if any] on editing activity and number of active editors/new [10+ edits] editors? Nope. The total active editors count is not a priority for the Foundation at this time.[1] This is not what I asked. I asked about

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Roadmap and deployment highlights - week of June 16th

2014-06-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Greg Grossmeier, 14/06/2014 00:30: Tablets will be sent to the mobile version of the project websites. Previously they were sent to the desktop version. There is a blog post and central notice drafted and ready to go out day of. Will someone be monitoring the effects [if any] on editing

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Removing the Watchlist icon on Opera / Lower JS Devices?

2014-06-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Juliusz Gonera, 10/06/2014 20:31: I would remove page actions for non-JS users if watchstar proves to be hardly ever used. Personally I'm quite disturbed by the idea of further reducing discoverability of editing/non-passive usage. I don't know about the specific case, but remember not to tra

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: I have an issue on Mediawiki with MobileFrontend installed

2014-06-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 05/06/2014 22:40: Hey Deepack this variable is not really maintained and may have bugs [...] But when I edit any article on the wiki page with mobile version of the skin, I am not able to save it. It says - "Error, edit not saved." However if I am logged in, there are no errors. S

[WikimediaMobile] Proportion of mobile views to Italian Wikipedia

2014-06-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Do Mobile folks have some quick way to tell roughly what percentage of it.wiki pageviews comes from mobile, compared to 1 year ago or to the all wikis average? Checking just the visits to main page is also fine. Context: I want to reduce the long list of possible suspects for

Re: [WikimediaMobile] QQQuestion

2014-05-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Monte Hurd, 30/05/2014 22:55: Is there a standard way to indicate in a qqq file that a particular translation should try to be as few characters as possible? No, because when this is needed it means you're doing something wrong. :) Of course in mobile it's trickier, just add some details in fre

Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Design] Showing the number of talk topics on the article page

2014-05-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 23/05/2014 15:54: (Note evidence from many user tests that have been run in the past 2 years give me the impression that many non-editors are not aware there is a discussion side to Wikipedia) I've tried https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random/Talk and then the "Return to ..

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Can iOS app be released to a couple small localizations intially?

2014-04-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Monte Hurd, 15/04/2014 21:14: As Tomasz pointed out, it may not be possible, but it's worth looking in to. So, is it technically possible in the end? If one or two testers show up for a language/locale who'd use this channel, it could make a difference without bothering much. Nemo

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Gerrit email notifications are useless

2014-04-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Juliusz Gonera, 23/04/2014 23:13: How does that work? It's a bot, it works with code, linked from the page: https://github.com/valhallasw/gerrit-reviewer-bot Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/m

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Captcha Inspiration

2014-04-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Yuvi Panda, 16/04/2014 20:24: Working link: http://minus.com/i/FMw4OIKriNEC Might work for some small wikis if published as ConfirmEdit plugin, but looks very easy for spambots to win if they have sufficient motivation (i.e. if used on big wikis). Nemo _

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] English Wikipedia Homepage Framework

2014-04-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Arthur Richards, 15/04/2014 23:42: FYI and for those who missed this on wikitech-l. Designers in particular (especially Kaity and Moiz who've previously discussed WP home page stuff) check this out! Or someone with cloudbees access could produce a bunch of screenshots and forward them to the f

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Notes from discussions about reverts on mobile

2014-04-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
One important note and p.s. on the nitpick. Kenan Wang, 05/04/2014 01:07: Also, this may have implications for how we display watchlist items: considering grouping edits by user, and only displaying most recent edits (i.e. only rollback eligible edits) Very important: what you propose here is

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: Diff views for the colorblind

2014-04-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
(Replying on list, I assume it was just my reply-to's fault.) Quim Gil, 05/04/2014 07:41: On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Once again, please just use core's style. There was a huge discussion about it back then, there is no need to reinvent the wheel

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: Diff views for the colorblind

2014-04-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jon Robson, 31/03/2014 23:13: We are considering changing the colours in the diff page view for mobile. Once again, please just use core's style. There was a huge discussion about it back then, there is no need to reinvent the wheel and reopen flames. Nemo _

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikivoyage: Tweaks to Special:Nearby

2014-03-27 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Max Semenik, 27/03/2014 08:23: Heh, we deployed the config change on the same day:) For reference: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/119313/ Nemo ___ Mobile-l mailing list Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mo

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Apps Feedback Email Addresses

2014-03-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Adam Baso, 26/03/2014 22:43: The OTRS queues have been created and the Google Groups removed. Fantastic! Thank you very much for this, I hope it will save you time in the long run (or even in the medium and short-to-medium run if possible :P). Nemo __

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Fwd: [zero] reducing image quality

2014-03-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Tomasz Finc, 26/03/2014 04:17: Raising the awareness of this to more people on mobile-l Thanks. I think this RfC is nowhere near being implemented, or actually even considered. FWIW, the

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