On 9 Jun 2000, at 12:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > what is this band like because i really like this quote. also, are they > just > a local band or is it available? > shaYne they're from the detroit area -- marshall, to be exact. the cd "our own wars" is available on no idea records. no idea has a website (http://www.noidearecords.com); but the last i heard they were out of the album. same with cdnow, who also says they have it on backorder. i finally found a copy at lumberjack (http://www.lumberjack-online.com) for around $10 if i remember correctly. as previously stated, they sound similar to hot water music and jawbreaker but still have their own unique sound. two vocalists with somewhat gruffy voices, good lyrics, blah blah, et cetera. they're also excellent live, in my opinion. check 'em out. -- brad ps: http://www.smallbrownbike.com