To me there is something very scary about beer that cost less than 4 bucks (unless, of course, you like malt liqueur). i grew up in the land of piss beer and when I came up to the northwest i just couldn't see the point in drinking that kind of beer anymore. i agree with matt who said that a beer snob is someone who simply like beer that tastes good. i drink lots of black bier and the selection here is prime (Guinness is still my favorite though). Also, all of the "beer snobs" I know only talk about beer to other "beer snobs", unless of course you strike up a conversation with one on that line. I do agree though that the worlds best beer comes from across the atlantic (mainly Ireland). As far as Portland is concerned, if you think that this city is full of arrogant people then you really haven't been to other cities. In my humble opinion this is one of the most friendly, laid back, cities to exist. It just might be the most. The east coast for sure has nothing but cities that ignore you unless you know where to go, and any of most of the others people are just to busy to notice or care about you. I do like New Orleans though (atleast, only for a couple of weeks at the most). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MMouse]: real beer Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:29:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A beer snob not only insists on drinking expensive beer, but also a beer snob insists on making their preferences therein heard, and heard loudly. Nothing worse than an earful when it's already enough trouble just trying to stomach your six pack of milwaukee's best ice pounders. Another thing that bugs me is people who insist that they don't like being drunk. Drink soda pop for christs sake. ___________________________________________________________________________ Ben Hubbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____________