I know we are straying WOT, but I would love to get a better feel for XML, XSLT and 
AxKit.  There are a lot of different systems out there. . .and part of me wants to 
just do it my way (in large part to learn), but I also realize that I really want to 
get to the business of also being productive. 

Per the below, I would imagine some would say XML in and of itself is not worth 
considering as a contender for being the basis for our C of MVC.  AxKit bills itself 
as an XML application.  Would ppl suggest just using an XSLT parser. . .or is it worth 
looking at AxKit. 

If anyone is willing to share their experiences, knowledge, insight -- off the ML is 
okay, too -- I would _really_ appreciate it!

Thanks,
Ward

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>On Monday 10 June 2002 11:23 pm, Vuillemot, Ward W wrote:
>>    :  Really interesting, xml
>>    :  appears to be
>>    :  the final destination for most of us, even if now i
>>    :  prefer objects.
>>    :
>>    :  Ciao, Valerio
>>
>> That is my big question.  Is XML/XSLT really the right solution?  Using SAX
>> along with having tags call handlers seems like a pretty powerful way to
>> get a very cool tool to build powerful templating services.  I haven't
>> decided if XSLT really is worth the effort as it just seems like a
>> glorified XML (yes; it is indeed) -- what I mean to say, does XSLT really
>> have any real value since everything it does can be done in Perl.  If I got
>> make handlers for XSLT, too -- then why even use XSLT?  Just go back to
>> plain XML and do it all on my own, no?
>
>There's quite a few things that are a lot harder to do with XML in plain perl 
>(especially in SAX) than they are in XSLT. It's really hard to explain this 
>to anyone who hasn't yet learned XSLT's template model, but the simplest 
>thing to describe is that looping back to previous tags is really hard with 
>SAX (you have to use some sort of node caching technique).
>
>One thing a lot of people will argue is that XSLT is verbose and ugly. And I 
>totally agree. But get over it. Perl is ugly too. But once you start using 
>XSLT for any length of time you start to realise just why it is designed like 
>it is, and you start to appreciate that design (and this is from someone who 
>has so far designed *two* alternatives to XSLT!).
>
>- -- 
><:->get a SMart net</:->
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