Re: [OT] About XML and Petal (was Re: templating system opinions (axkit?))

2003-07-30 Thread Eric Cholet
Le lundi, 28 juil 2003, à 21:27 Europe/Paris, Jean-Michel Hiver a écrit : Also, with TT you have to use the filter 'html' to XML encode your variables. Petal does it by default, and you need to use the TALES 'structure' keyword to NOT encode. You don't *have* to use the 'html' filter in TT. I

[OT] About XML and Petal (was Re: templating system opinions (axkit?))

2003-07-28 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
XML syntax is crufty at best. It requires you to be strict and tediously correct with every character. So what. It's not like you can afford to forget that many curly braces or semicolons (well, except those at the end of a block) with Perl. That doesn't make it useless does it? You have to

Re: [OT] About XML and Petal (was Re: templating system opinions (axkit?))

2003-07-28 Thread Andy Wardley
Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: something like: div dir=!--VAR language_dir -- !--VAR some_content-- /div Which is completely impossible to validate and IMHO very hard to read. Agreed. The following is easier to read, IMHO, and is also valid XML markup. div dir=[% language_dir %] [%

Re: [OT] About XML and Petal (was Re: templating system opinions(axkit?))

2003-07-28 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
If you like a more straightforward approach, TT also lets you write: div dir=$language_dir $some_content /div See, I knew there would be something that we would agree on! :-) :) But at the risk of breaking compatibility with some validators / XML tools / etc. It

Re: [OT] About XML and Petal (was Re: templating system opinions (axkit?))

2003-07-28 Thread Kyle Dawkins
I suggest y'all check out Tapestry http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry to see a really nice happy medium. It uses a templating language similar to TAL but much more flexible (and useful, in my mind) than rigid XML. All its templates can be used in things like Dreamweaver and GoLive with

Re: [OT] About XML and Petal (was Re: templating system opinions(axkit?))

2003-07-28 Thread Aleksandr Guidrevitch
Hi, All May be I'm a bit late here... But is there any sence in artifical XML templating languages since there is XSLT ? Just wonder whether there are cons other than long learning curve and performance issues ? Alex Gidrevich

Re: [OT] About XML and Petal (was Re: templating system opinions(axkit?))

2003-07-28 Thread Chris Devers
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Aleksandr Guidrevitch wrote: May be I'm a bit late here... But is there any sence in artifical XML templating languages since there is XSLT ? Just wonder whether there are cons other than long learning curve and performance issues ? Well, in the case of just TAL/Petal,