Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-09 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi all, On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Owen Scott Medd wrote: On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Ganesan M wrote: Schoolmaster.net, 167,000 lines of Perl code, another 30,000 lines of C. Rich. How do you run 'C' code from Apache/mod_perl? Using the perl XS interface usually... that's how we access

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-09 Thread Ganesan M
From: Ged Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Owen Scott Medd wrote: How do you run 'C' code from Apache/mod_perl? Using the perl XS interface usually... that's how we access our text analysis routines which are in C. Or use Inline.pm if you don't want to get too

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-09 Thread Ganesan M
How do you run 'C' code from Apache/mod_perl? Oops. I forgot to include the error message. inlinetest_pl_c800.xs: In function `myfunction': inlinetest_pl_c800.xs:24: request for member `pointer_status' in something not a structure or union G.

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-09 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
Owen, if you could give me any location/documentation/tutorial for how to use perlXS interface efficiently to access C progs, that will be great. You might also want to take a look at SWIG (a search for 'SWIG' on google will do as ususal), which looks quite interesting... it's a shame that

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-08 Thread Ganesan M
Schoolmaster.net, 167,000 lines of Perl code, another 30,000 lines of C. Rich. How do you run 'C' code from Apache/mod_perl? G.

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-08 Thread Owen Scott Medd
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Ganesan M wrote: Schoolmaster.net, 167,000 lines of Perl code, another 30,000 lines of C. Rich. How do you run 'C' code from Apache/mod_perl? Using the perl XS interface usually... that's how we access our text analysis routines which are in C. Owen -- USMail:

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-05 Thread Owen Scott Medd
I think the point is that you have complete non-trivial applications being written in Perl. Success is measured in application adoption, not in elegance. I've worked many places that produced very elegant code, however all of those places no longer exist. You need more than cool code to

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-04 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Valerio_Valdez Paolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I never used RH RPMs for Apache and mod_perl, mostly because of DSO issues. I'm running stock RH RPM apache/mod_perl on some fairly hairy sites (hand-crafted mod_perl, slashcode etc.) with _no_ problems. And that was through the current round

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-04 Thread rich
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:41:38PM +0100, Peter Haworth wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:40:44 +0100, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: perl: Any iussues with perl/modperl? Besides modperl I will be running a perl application with a few hundred thousend lines of code... Wow. For reference last time

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-04 Thread rich
On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 07:06:30AM -0700, Nick Tonkin wrote: I'm confused. Since when did bloat surpass elegance as a measure of success in Perl programming? :-) I think it was more of a joke ... or at least primitive Perl programmer willy-waving .. Rich. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Is your

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-04 Thread Nick Tonkin
I'm confused. Since when did bloat surpass elegance as a measure of success in Perl programming? - nick Nick Tonkin {|8^) On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:41:38PM +0100, Peter Haworth wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:40:44

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-04 Thread Frank D. Cringle
Nick Tonkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm confused. Since when did bloat surpass elegance as a measure of success in Perl programming? Indeed. Generic question: How many lines of code have you spent today? -- Frank Cringle, [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (+49 7745) 928759; fax: 928761

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
perl: Any iussues with perl/modperl? Besides modperl I will be running a perl application with a few hundred thousend lines of code... Wow. For reference last time I looked at slashcode it was about 25.000 lines I think. I wonder what kind of application would require more than that amount of

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread Peter Haworth
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:40:44 +0100, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: perl: Any iussues with perl/modperl? Besides modperl I will be running a perl application with a few hundred thousend lines of code... Wow. For reference last time I looked at slashcode it was about 25.000 lines I think. I wonder

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread Barry Hoggard
Since everyone's become distracted by the lines of code number, I answered a few of the questions that I feel I can answer. Apache/modperl installation and updates: I assume installation is straight forward, how about keeping current? As those are remotely administered platforms, chances

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread lembark
-- Barry Hoggard [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/03/02 11:52:21 -0400 You're talking about using their packages? I suspect most people on this list build their own apache/mod_perl binaries. Nearly always a good idea since it's (a) remarkably simple to do and (b) ensures that the current perl's

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
I'm using RedHat on my servers; can't do comparison to SuSe since I don't know it, but I'll comment on the RedHat side. I got into RedHat because of the RPM utility, around 4.2 I think, and have stayed with it because nothing has yet annoyed me enough to switch. Gerd Knops [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread Owen Scott Medd
lol... We're running a little over 175000 lines of (mod)perl code, currently running on a mix of RedHat 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and Advanced Server. Next? On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 09:41, Peter Haworth wrote: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 11:40:44 +0100, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: perl: Any iussues with perl/modperl?

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread Valerio_Valdez Paolini
Software-based RAID 1: Is it usable (only for a data partition, not required for the root partition)? Is it easy to recover from a broken disk? If possible, consider using hardware RAID, like Mylex ones; they are quite expensive, because of SCSI disks, but you gain cpu cycles; I've used

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread Peter Bi
-Michel Hiver [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gerd Knops [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe? lol... We're running a little over 175000 lines of (mod)perl code, currently running on a mix of RedHat 7.1, 7.2

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Valerio_Valdez Paolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Software-based RAID 1: Is it usable (only for a data partition, not required for the root partition)? Is it easy to recover from a broken disk? If possible, consider using hardware RAID, like Mylex ones; they are quite expensive, because

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread Rob Nagler
David Dyer-Bennet writes: Obviously hardware RAID will save CPU cycles somewhat, and SCSI disks of the right type will increase IO bandwidth somewhat, but if you're not short of those things and still want the added security of mirroring, I think the software RAID is a viable option. Harware

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread Valerio_Valdez Paolini
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Rob Nagler wrote: David Dyer-Bennet writes: Obviously hardware RAID will save CPU cycles somewhat, and SCSI disks of the right type will increase IO bandwidth somewhat, but if you're not short of those things and still want the added security of mirroring, I think

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread Chris Garrigues
From: Barry Hoggard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:52:21 -0400 Remote maintability: Is it possible to remotely upgrade between OS versions for either of those platforms (not a must, but would be a plus)? I would be afraid to do that remotely, since it normally

Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-03 Thread Owen Scott Medd
]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe? lol... We're running a little over 175000 lines of (mod)perl code, currently running on a mix of RedHat 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and Advanced Server. Next? On Wed, 2002-07-03

[OT] Better Linux server platform: Redhat or SuSe?

2002-07-02 Thread Gerd Knops
Hi, Sorry for this somewhat OT post (though it may be of general interest). I am currently maintaining a WAN (4 continents) consisting of FreeBSD machines. While I am quite happy with FreeBSD, lack of driver support for some boards I need to use forces me to switch to Linux. And while the