Re: Can AxKit be used as a Template Engine?

2001-04-23 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Joachim Zobel wrote: Hi. I try to understand why and if this XML/XSL stuff is useful. Is it that transformations (XSL) of XML to HTML can be used instead of the usual HTML templates (eg. Template-Toolkit)? Partly. But XSLT is also able to transform documents, which

Re: Can AxKit be used as a Template Engine?

2001-04-23 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The one thing I think AxKit does really well, that other templating solutions aren't really designed for, is allowing you to build your whole web site with that solution. So for example, Mason and EmbPerl are really great for building the dynamic parts

Re: Can AxKit be used as a Template Engine?

2001-04-23 Thread Matt Sergeant
On 23 Apr 2001, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: Errr, respectfully, I think you underestimate Mason's capabilities. Not really. I've researched Mason quite a bit, and I talk with Jon every ApacheCon/OSSCON about how we can bring together the Mason and AxKit synergy. Now Jon has been to my talk, we

Re: Can AxKit be used as a Template Engine?

2001-04-23 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It depends a *lot* on the type of content on your site. The above www.dorado.com is brochureware, so it's not likely to need to be re-styled for lighter browsers, or WebTV, or WAP, or... etc. So your content (I'm guessing) is pure HTML, with Mason used

Re: Can AxKit be used as a Template Engine?

2001-04-23 Thread Ian Kallen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mason and AxKit solve different but related problems. The former a code-aware component system with process semantics that lend itself to easily scoping a component's applicability, the latter a transformation engine. It would be nice to see a framework published that uses the best of both

Re: Can AxKit be used as a Template Engine?

2001-04-23 Thread ed phillips
Michael Alan Dorman wrote: Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It depends a *lot* on the type of content on your site. The above www.dorado.com is brochureware, so it's not likely to need to be re-styled for lighter browsers, or WebTV, or WAP, or... etc. So your content (I'm

Re: Can AxKit be used as a Template Engine?

2001-04-23 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Ian Kallen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mason and AxKit solve different but related problems. The former a code-aware component system with process semantics that lend itself to easily scoping a component's applicability, the latter a transformation engine. It would be

Re: Can AxKit be used as a Template Engine?

2001-04-23 Thread Matt Sergeant
On 23 Apr 2001, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: Well I will say that you made an excellent point that hadn't really occured to me---I use XML + XSL for a lot of stuff (the DTD I use for my resume is a deeply reworked version of one I believe you had posted at one time), but not web sites, in part

Re: Can AxKit be used as a Template Engine?

2001-04-23 Thread brian moseley
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Matt Sergeant wrote: The alternative of course it to just plug them both together - AxKit and Mason play nicely together using Apache::Filter (though it's a bit slow). with version 2.3 of the java servlet api, you can now create input and output filters, just like the

Can AxKit be used as a Template Engine?

2001-04-21 Thread Joachim Zobel
Hi. I try to understand why and if this XML/XSL stuff is useful. Is it that transformations (XSL) of XML to HTML can be used instead of the usual HTML templates (eg. Template-Toolkit)? Can this do what a template engine can do? Where are the limitations? Is there something it can't do?