Re: mod-perl logo

1999-11-17 Thread Andy Wardley
Weeks ago, on Nov 1, 1:11pm, Joshua Chamas wrote: and they don't own perl, just the camel. Actually, they don't even own the camel. The image is in the public domain. Look on any of the "20 Gazzillion Clip Art Images" CD's and you'll find it along with all the other O'Reilly animals.

Re: mod-perl logo

1999-11-17 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
"Andy" == Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andy The Camel is O'Reilly -- Perl. The Camel existed before Perl, Andy Perl existed before the Camel, both existed before O'Reilly. Perl did not exist before O'Reilly. The chrono order is: 1) camels (circa thousands of years BC) 2) O'Reilly

OT: Re: mod-perl logo

1999-11-02 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Chris Thompson wrote: On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 04:42:50PM -0400, Neil Kandalgaonkar wrote: Joshua Chamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, they do allow non-profits and others to use the camel, e.g. the Perl Mongers. It's not evil, they're just trying to protect a trademark which they

RE: mod-perl logo

1999-11-01 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Kent, Mr. John wrote: Doug, I asked O'Reilly's permission to use the "camel and feather" without acknowledging them, and they said NO, see letter below from Edie Freedman. gad, I hate politics. Tim O'Reilly gave us permission to use the camel in the mod_perl logo two

Re: mod-perl logo

1999-11-01 Thread Joshua Chamas
Doug MacEachern wrote: On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Kent, Mr. John wrote: Doug, I asked O'Reilly's permission to use the "camel and feather" without acknowledging them, and they said NO, see letter below from Edie Freedman. gad, I hate politics. Tim O'Reilly gave us permission to use the

Re: mod-perl logo

1999-11-01 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, Joshua Chamas wrote: Doug MacEachern wrote: On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Kent, Mr. John wrote: Doug, I asked O'Reilly's permission to use the "camel and feather" without acknowledging them, and they said NO, see letter below from Edie Freedman. gad, I hate

Re: mod-perl logo

1999-11-01 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
"Matt" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matt Perl didn't come before the camel, I don't know what you mean here. Perl was most certainly around for at least three years before Larry and I approved the use of a camel on the cover of our book. Matt That wouldn't stand up in any US

Re: mod-perl logo

1999-11-01 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Mon, 01 Nov 1999, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: "Matt" == Matt Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matt Perl didn't come before the camel, I don't know what you mean here. Perl was most certainly around for at least three years before Larry and I approved the use of a camel on the cover

Re: mod-perl logo

1999-11-01 Thread Chris Thompson
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 04:42:50PM -0400, Neil Kandalgaonkar wrote: Joshua Chamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, they do allow non-profits and others to use the camel, e.g. the Perl Mongers. It's not evil, they're just trying to protect a trademark which they built. AFAIK no one

RE: mod-perl logo

1999-11-01 Thread Kent, Mr. John
Associates, Inc. -Original Message- From: Doug MacEachern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 10:05 PM To: Kent, Mr. John Subject: Re: mod-perl logo I have seen many sites use the logo without the o'reilly permission. I'd say go ahead and use it, worst case is tha