Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2005-01-10 Thread Jared Rhine
Stas 99.9% of users do *not* need to use this workaround. So that Stas issue is moot if you ask me. Four out of my five biggest customers *will* need to have both modperl1 and modperl2 in the same Perl installation tree on their development machines, because they'll need to start looking at

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2005-01-10 Thread Pratik
I would like to support Randal's contention (if not his tone) that indeed, in real-world mod_perl commercial situations that I'm familiar with (say about 8), 80% of those real-world users will want to have both mod_perl 1 and mod_perl 2 installed concurrently due to the generally-accepted

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2005-01-05 Thread Ron Savage
Hi Folks It gets worse :-(. Apache::Test can't be upgraded... Server Version: Apache/2.0.50 (Win32) mod_perl/1.99_15-dev Perl/v5.8.4 Apache::Test V 1.13 installed in the sane directory /perl/site/lib/Apache/ Apache::Build V 0.01 installed in the pathological directory

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2005-01-05 Thread Geoffrey Young
Admit it, Stas, The wheels have fallen off you nasty hack re namespaces. Stop trying to defend the indefensible. Just fix it! this kind of barb is really counterproductive, as have been many, many of the remarks directed at Stas over the past two weeks. I can't imagine how anyone would

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2005-01-05 Thread Frank Wiles
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:50:39 -0500 Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Admit it, Stas, The wheels have fallen off you nasty hack re namespaces. Stop trying to defend the indefensible. Just fix it! this kind of barb is really counterproductive, as have been many, many of the

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2005-01-05 Thread Jie Gao
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Frank Wiles wrote: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:21:01 -0600 From: Frank Wiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Geoffrey Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: modperl@perl.apache.org Subject: Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:50:39 -0500

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2004-12-31 Thread Stas Bekman
Joe Schaefer wrote: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joe Schaefer wrote: [...] Looks very promising to me. Is there a way to tell PAUSE to index mod_perl's Apache::* modules from a bundle? If so, that might provide a decent solution for both mod_perl and libapreq (and other Apache::*

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2004-12-31 Thread Stas Bekman
Joe Schaefer wrote: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randy Kobes wrote: [...] There's still mod_perl.pm in both packages, though. In mp2, this is just something to define the version, and also to provide a NAME pod section (if I remember correctly, this was inserted for the benefit of

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2004-12-31 Thread John Siracusa
I'm going to chime in, as someone working on a suite of modules that are intended to eventually work with apache 1.x and 2.x. First, I agree with this: On 12/31/04 2:27 PM, Adam Kennedy wrote: For the moment, I'm asking just that the release of mod_perl 2.0 be put on hold until this problem,

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2004-12-31 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Stas == Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stas 99.9% of users do *not* need to use this workaround. So that Stas issue is moot if you ask me. You keep saying this like you believe it. In fact, the number keeps getting closer to 100% each time. This is pure, fabricated *fiction*. Four out

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2004-12-31 Thread Adam Kennedy
John Siracusa wrote: On 12/31/04 4:40 PM, Stas Bekman wrote: Finally you don't want to use it - don't use it. It's an open source software, it will succeed or fail by *its own merits* and not because the infrastructure has a long known problem but is not willing to evolve. And to repeat this

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2004-12-31 Thread Render Web
Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Four out of my five biggest customers *will* need to have both modperl1 and modperl2 in the same Perl installation tree on their Bullcrap - I would say that sep perl installs is not enough! Personally I would hate to work for anyone who does insists on dev/testing on live

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2004-12-31 Thread Dan Brian
Stas 99.9% of users do *not* need to use this workaround. So that Stas issue is moot if you ask me. Randal You keep saying this like you believe it. In fact, the number keeps Randal getting closer to 100% each time. Randal This is pure, fabricated *fiction*. For me, this ends up being the sane

Re: [summary] The Conflict of mp1 vs mp2 vs mp22 vs ... vs mpNN

2004-12-30 Thread Joe Schaefer
Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] -- Meanwhile I've found a solution proposed by Andreas 1.5 years ago, which might work as a better workaround from all the ones proposed so far: