Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 4/3/2012 9:50 PM, Jim Schueler wrote: > Hope this doesn't get trapped by too many spam filters. > > Sad news. Just saw a blog > > http://www.highscalability.com/ > > that reports YouPorn.com switched from Perl to PHP. Apparently there's a > reported 10% > improvement in speed, but I have

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 04/04/2012 10:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 4/3/2012 9:50 PM, Jim Schueler wrote: >> Hope this doesn't get trapped by too many spam filters. >> >> Sad news. Just saw a blog >> >> http://www.highscalability.com/ >> >> that reports YouPorn.com switched from Perl to PHP. Apparently there'

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Jim Schueler wrote: > that reports YouPorn.com switched from Perl to PHP.  Apparently there's a > reported 10% improvement in speed, but I haven't noticed :). We lost YouPorn?! Tragic! I'd say the joke's on them though. If you rewrite an old site and only get a

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Rolf Banting
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: > ... If they were to > rewrite it in Perl today, *it would go up again*! > > - Perrin > No performance anxiety there then.

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Mike OK
LOL - Original Message - From: Rolf Banting To: Perrin Harkins Cc: Jim Schueler ; modperl@perl.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:13 AM Subject: Re: highscalability.com report On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: ... If they were

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread demerphq
On 4 April 2012 09:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 4/3/2012 9:50 PM, Jim Schueler wrote: >> Hope this doesn't get trapped by too many spam filters. >> >> Sad news.  Just saw a blog >> >>   http://www.highscalability.com/ >> >> that reports YouPorn.com switched from Perl to PHP.  Apparently the

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread André Warnier
Rolf Banting wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: ... If they were to rewrite it in Perl today, *it would go up again*! - Perrin No performance anxiety there then. Particularly with a non-threaded Perl, which allows Apache to fork multiple times..

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread discobeta
agree, any rewrite of old code should improve by at least 10%, even if it was written in pascal On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM, André Warnier wrote: > Rolf Banting wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Perrin Harkins wrote: >> >> ... >>> >> >> If they were to >> >>> rewrite it in Perl t

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Dave Morgan
Hi All, So they did a complete rewrite without changing the hardware? My guess is that the site on the same hardware would be substantially slower. IMHO Dave On 04/04/12 08:23 AM, discobeta wrote: agree, any rewrite of old code should improve by at least 10%, even if it was written in

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Ludwig
demerphq schrieb am 04.04.2012 um 15:37 (+0200): > > When was the last time you built perl with no threading support? > >  It's certainly a 5%-15% win. > > Not certainly. We did that and saw almost no difference. As I see threads mentioned here: I know that there's some Perl threads knowledge o

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Fred Moyer
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM, demerphq wrote: > On 4 April 2012 09:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> >> When was the last time you built perl with no threading support?  It's >> certainly a 5%-15% win. > > Not certainly. We did that and saw almost no difference. I've done two perlbench sets of

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 4 Apr 2012, at 19:41, Fred Moyer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM, demerphq wrote: >> On 4 April 2012 09:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >>> >>> When was the last time you built perl with no threading support? It's >>> certainly a 5%-15% win. >> >> Not certainly. We did that and saw

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 4/4/2012 1:41 PM, Fred Moyer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM, demerphq wrote: >> On 4 April 2012 09:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >>> >>> When was the last time you built perl with no threading support? It's >>> certainly a 5%-15% win. >> >> Not certainly. We did that and saw almost

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-04 Thread Randolf Richardson
> Hi All, > So they did a complete rewrite without changing the hardware? > My guess is that the site on the same hardware would be substantially slower. A change to the database design, as well as database engine (e.g., to something fantastic like PostgreSQL), indexing strategies, e

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-05 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Talking of youporn: http://gizmodo.com/5899327/how-much-porn-does-the-internet-hold 10 Dual layer DVDs per second.

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-12 Thread Clinton Gormley
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 22:50 -0400, Jim Schueler wrote: > Hope this doesn't get trapped by too many spam filters. > > Sad news. Just saw a blog > >http://www.highscalability.com/ > > that reports YouPorn.com switched from Perl to PHP. Apparently there's a > reported 10% improvement in spee

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-12 Thread Michael Peters
On 04/12/2012 10:00 AM, Clinton Gormley wrote: I think the bigger factor in the speed improvement is probably to do with switching from MySQL to Redis https://groups.google.com/group/redis-db/browse_thread/thread/77841c595d29f983?pli=1 They didn't really "switch" from mysql to redis. They are

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-12 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: "Clinton Gormley" Subject: Re: highscalability.com report On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 22:50 -0400, Jim Schueler wrote: Hope this doesn't get trapped by too many spam filters. Sad news. Just saw a blog http://www.highscalability.com/ that reports YouPorn.com switched f

RE: highscalability.com report

2012-04-12 Thread Jim Schueler
l talent has become a big issue. I'm told that they're somewhere down the road to moving to PHP. -Original Message- From: Octavian Rasnita [mailto:orasn...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:02 PM To: Clinton Gormley; Jim Schueler Cc: modperl@perl.apache.org Subject: R

RE: highscalability.com report

2012-04-15 Thread eric.berg
dperl@perl.apache.org > Subject: Re: highscalability.com report > > From: "Clinton Gormley" > Subject: Re: highscalability.com report > > > > On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 22:50 -0400, Jim Schueler wrote: > >> Hope this doesn't get trapp

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-15 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 12 Apr 2012, at 18:14, wrote: > Well, finding (good) developers is certainly an issue. > > Here in NYC, it's very difficult to find proper Perl programmers as opposed > to dabblers and scripters. > > One of the larger web sites here in the city was built by a great Perl guy, > but as th

RE: highscalability.com report

2012-04-16 Thread Vincent Veyron
Le jeudi 12 avril 2012 à 13:14 -0400, eric.b...@barclays.com a écrit : > Well, finding (good) developers is certainly an issue. > Over the years, I have seen more than one of those being driven out of the field by the inane management that most developers toil under. And considering how demanding

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-17 Thread Fred Moyer
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Vincent Veyron wrote: > Le jeudi 12 avril 2012 à 13:14 -0400, eric.b...@barclays.com a écrit : >> Well, finding (good) developers is certainly an issue. >> > Over the years, I have seen more than one of those being driven out of > the field by the inane management

Re: highscalability.com report

2012-04-17 Thread Vincent Veyron
Le mardi 17 avril 2012 à 10:04 -0700, Fred Moyer a écrit : > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Vincent Veyron wrote: > > Le jeudi 12 avril 2012 à 13:14 -0400, eric.b...@barclays.com a écrit : > >> Well, finding (good) developers is certainly an issue. > >> > > Over the years, I have seen more than