Re[2]: OT: cheap CA certificates

2003-11-18 Thread James Treworgy
Thawte is pretty cheap. $127 bucks through their ISP channel (anyone can sign up) for a regular web cert, I am not sure you can do much better. If it's not worth $127 a year, then I assume it's not for profit, e.g. for internal use only or for a small number of users. In that case, just use self-s

Re: Urgent: remove password from server cert?

2001-05-02 Thread James Treworgy
Add: SSLPassPhraseDialog exec:(path to SSLpassphrasefile) to httpd.conf SSLpassphrasefile is: #!/bin/sh echo (passphrase) Of course, this is a security risk, since you've got your pass phrase stored on the server itself in clear text. The consequences of that should be considered. You coul

Re: Incorrect Certificate presented for Virtual Site...Why?

2001-02-12 Thread James Treworgy
You can't use name-based virtual hosting for SSL. More specifically you cannot have two SSL virtual hosts bound to the same IP and port. You must either use a different IP or a different port. Check the FAQ or archives of this list for details of why you can't do this. Jamie On Sunday, Februar

Re: SSL and vhosts

2001-01-15 Thread James Treworgy
It is impossible, read the faq. For your purposes, why not just use alternate ports, or use a subdirectory of a single secure server (e.g. https://yourhost.com/yourclient)? For administration purposes - presumably by the person who maintains the sites - the url really doesn't matter much. Ja

Re: Why pay a CA?

2000-12-06 Thread James Treworgy
... and you can tell your browser to add a certificate to it's root authority list so it won't warn you in the future. So if it's for a small group or intranet you simply tell everyone how to accept the cert and they'll never be bothered again. But for any commercial use this simply won't fly

Re: Netscape 6

2000-12-03 Thread James Treworgy
Why did you need to do this? I would think this would have unpredictable results. You only need one IP addresss to use the same domain name for both http and https since they are accessed on different ports. # Secure virtual host ... # http virtual host ... is the usual way to set this up.

Re: MOD_SSL + MSIE 5.x

2000-11-14 Thread James Treworgy
Apache 1.3.14 will not compile with php4.0.0? Why? Also, why _must_ you use a specific version of PHP that contains documented memory leaks, among other bugs, when there are more recent versions available? Using the 2.7.1 version of mod_ssl (without RSAREF) also has the significant advantage o

Re: [BugDB] PRIVATE: Internet Explorer File Upload fails (PR#484)

2000-11-11 Thread James Treworgy
I was going to note a similar problem I was having to this list (as I believed it to be mod_ssl related at first), but I believe the problem is not with mod_ssl but with Apache 1.3.14 and/or PHP 3.0.4pl1. That is, are you noting this problem with https only, or have you confirmed that it exis

Re: Some question about modssl

2000-11-07 Thread James Treworgy
True, there's nothing in protocol against it, and users can switch it off, but if you're trying to sell something over the internet (which is the reason a lot of poeple use SSL) then you really need to cater to the least common denominator. Trying to explain frightening messages to the 60% or

Re: Some question about modssl

2000-11-06 Thread James Treworgy
I would absolutely *not* do this, unless you want your web site users to see a message from the web browser saying "this page has both secure and insecure information. Do you want to proceed?" every time they user your site. This does not instill confidence. -- Jamie At 06:03 AM 11/6/00, Owe

Re: Ready for Prime Time ?

2000-11-02 Thread James Treworgy
The others have answered one part of your question, but I wanted to mention another very significant part of the whole support issue. What is your experience with paid, supported software from companies like 'the evil empire'? Personally, I have been in many situations where I was ready, willi

Re: Securing subdirectorys

2000-10-30 Thread James Treworgy
Here's one way... Set up your roots in separete directories in httpd.conf: ./normal-root/ ./secure-root/ Make a symbolic link from ./normal-root/index.html to ./secure-root/index.html This would be the only "file" under normal-root, and everything is stored in secure-root but the link makes jus

Re: PHP Info www search and server info gathering (fwd)

2000-10-23 Thread James Treworgy
Doesn't seem like a big deal to me.. even _without_ the phpinfo() function i could probably tell you with about 80% accuracy what directories stuff on any given server is installed in, since most people use the defaults anyway. And any technical mailing list such as this one would tell you ex

Re: Who is this clueless moron?

2000-10-11 Thread James Treworgy
The answer lies.. https://www.ahresources.org (https, not http) He got to ModSSL via the "Apache Interface to SSLEay" link. I guess he missed the next paragraph that reads "ATTENTION! f you are seeing this page instead of the site you expected, please contact the administrator of the site invo

Re: Who is this clueless moron?

2000-10-11 Thread James Treworgy
The answer lies.. https://www.ahresources.org (https, not http) He got to ModSSL via the "Apache Interface to SSLEay" link. I guess he missed the next paragraph that reads "ATTENTION! f you are seeing this page instead of the site you expected, please contact the administrator of the site in

Re: LOL! RE: [BugDB] Stay away from my domain name (PR#466)

2000-10-11 Thread James Treworgy
I just sent him a message asking him to stop his takeover of our mailing list. What on earth is he talking about anyway? How could someone link _from_ his site to theirs? And assuming he really mean someone linked from _their_ site to _his_ site (which is completely empty anyway), why the hell

Re: allow access to https area without certificate

2000-09-25 Thread James Treworgy
You can't have a secured area without a certificate. This is the entire principle of the system depends on a certificate from the server. It's like trying to find a way to keep your door locked without carrying keys around. You need to either buy a cert from a trusted issuing authority, or g

Re: Securing one page

2000-09-21 Thread James Treworgy
At 05:53 AM 9/21/00, Nick Davies wrote: >It's just to save me time really. I have a few shop sites to move to a >new server and that's how its been setup. I can't be bother tolling >through loads of code to change everything. > >I'll do it properly some other time. Just set the root for HTTP an

Re: How to restrict a portion of web site to ONLY https?

2000-09-14 Thread James Treworgy
Why not just use a different document root for the secure and insecure sites? Put symbolic links from the HTTPS root into the regular root for directories that you want to make available insecurely as well. Jamie At 02:01 PM 9/14/00 , Carlos Ramirez wrote: You can use mod_rewrite. Example: R

Re: Newbie

2000-09-11 Thread James Treworgy
You don't really "install" a certificate, you simply put it somewhere and then reference it in your httpd.conf file: SSLCertificateFile /path/your.domain.com.crt SSLCertificateKeyFile /path/your.domain.com.key You probably should set privileges to only allow access by the user that apache runs

Re: Virtual Hosting problem

2000-09-08 Thread James Treworgy
RTFA ;-) Virtual hosting does not work with SSL. Each site must have its own IP. Jamie At 12:10 PM 9/8/00, Thomas E. Ruth wrote: >Hello, > >I have a little but I found that I'd like to report. > >I am using the NameVirtualHost facility of Apache together with SSL. The >problem comes with the en

Re: installation of modssl step-by-step

2000-09-07 Thread James Treworgy
The information that isn't linked on the web site is included in the tarball, called "Install". -- Jamie At 12:54 PM 9/7/00, Marcos Sanchez wrote: >Hello! > > I'm about to install mod_ssl 2_1_8-1_3_4 but I couldn't find the >information to a detailed installation of mod_ssl in the webs

RE: [OT]Things are getting a bit HOT on this mailing list![advice ]

2000-09-03 Thread James Treworgy
At 10:33 AM 8/31/00, Airey, John wrote: >Seriously though, I have to say that there are a number of postings to this >list that fall into the RTFM category, especially when it comes to the SSL >chicken and egg problem (please don't ask!). If I could get commission for >every message I've seen on t

Re: Urgent: remove password from server cert?

2000-06-01 Thread James Treworgy
Add: SSLPassPhraseDialog exec:(path to SSLpassphrasefile) to httpd.conf SSLpassphrasefile is: #!/bin/sh echo (passphrase) Of course, this is a security risk, since you've got your pass phrase stored on the server itself in clear text. The consequences of that should be considered. You coul

RE: Need Help with Virtual Hosts

2000-05-24 Thread James Treworgy
Ought to be a piece of cake with perl, and to set to a log format that includes the virtual host is easy enough with a single configuration directive. You could even do it with a single grep for each virtual server if you wanted. Also, from my reading of the file limit problem on apache's doc

Re: Need Help with Virtual Hosts

2000-05-23 Thread James Treworgy
Wouldn't it be simpler to set up a little cron job to break up your log file by virtual host every day? At 09:03 AM 5/23/00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >The per process file opening limit was a configurable parameter of your OS. >It was either a user resource limit (ulimit) or a tunable kern

RE: VeriSign keys.

2000-05-19 Thread James Treworgy
On the other hand, if you have a need to authenticate many SSL sites within your top level domain, it's probably because you need to distribute load. How I would love to be in a position of needing to spend an extra $100 for another cert because my primary server was maxed out. Seems like not

Re: Password access to a site

2000-05-19 Thread James Treworgy
In response to Veronique's original question - there's no way that I can think of to make a user re-authenticate on your site after they "leave". HTTP is by nature a request/response protocol so you how would you know they "left" your site? The only control you have is with time, which should

Re: request webserver by HTTPS only

2000-05-12 Thread James Treworgy
Remove the "listen" directive for port 80 for that server in httpd.conf Jamie At 03:50 PM 5/12/00 +0800, wen wrote: >modssl-users: > I have intalled apache+openssl+modssl.now I want to allow > intranet client request webserver by HTTPS only,don't allow by http. how > to do? >

Re: Adding Perl

2000-05-12 Thread James Treworgy
I don't know how to do it without recompiling, but it really doesn't take that long to recompile. In my experience it has always taken a little messing around to get the configure's exactly right, so I save the statements for each component in a script file so I can just rerun it each time I n

Re: (no subject)

2000-05-11 Thread James Treworgy
Check httpd.conf. If you are upgrading from a previous version, and therefore aren't using the default httpd.conf for this version of mod_ssl, then check httpd.conf.default (which will be generated when you install apache + mod_ssl) and make sure you merge any missing directives. My guess is

Re: Problem solved! RE: apache 1.3.12, open-ssl 0.9.5a, mod_ssl-2.6.4 -1.3.12/

2000-05-11 Thread James Treworgy
When I got certs from Thawte (now owned by verisign) they had extensive instructions on their web site for generating a CSR. This wasn't a big deal. You run the openssl program to create a new CSR for your company and it asks you to enter all the information. Thawte's web site has step by st

Re: Submit form sometimes fails connecting to secure server

2000-05-05 Thread James Treworgy
using the following directive > in your SSL-aware virtual host section: > > SetEnvIf User-Agent ".*MSIE.*" nokeepalive > ssl-unclean-shutdown > > At 10:18 AM 5/4/00 -0400, James Treworgy wrote: > >I am running apache 1.3.12 + mod_ssl 2.6.4 (openssl

RE: Is it secure to use a self signed Certificate?

2000-05-05 Thread James Treworgy
Yes, but this isn't really useful unless you are using the certs in a closed/internal situation. Having to explain to random users on your web site that they need to import you as a CA authority doesn't serve the purpose very well of assuring users they can trust you. Jamie At 09:21 AM 5/5/0

Re: Submit form sometimes fails connecting to secure server

2000-05-05 Thread James Treworgy
My cache is indeed set this way. Also, I don't seem to be getting any errors in my log when this happens. The last two errors are: [Thu May 4 11:50:14 2000] [error] mod_ssl: SSL handshake timed out (client 216.181.63.35, server ss.generationnet.org:443) [Mon May 1 18:02:07 2000] [error] mod_

Re: Is it secure to use a self signed Certificate?

2000-05-04 Thread James Treworgy
No. The short answer (and about as much as I understand ;-) is that part of the purpose of the certificate authorities is that an independent third party has verified the information provided by your certificate. The browsers are hardcoded with information about the certificate authorities a

Submit form sometimes fails connecting to secure server

2000-05-04 Thread James Treworgy
tes). I thought installing it as a DSO might help but it still happens. I can't seem to create a specific circumstance under which it will happen - e.g. if I restart httpd it won't do it the first time I hit the site