Re: Adding a perl_version key to META.yml

2007-11-19 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: I know it sounds like a hack, but perhaps the complete solution *is* to use perl "modules" for identifying all applications. Can we just have an 'external::' namespace or something? configure_requires: 'external::perl': 5.8.8 requires

Re: Adding a perl_version key to META.yml

2007-11-19 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Michael G Schwern # on Monday 19 November 2007 01:35: >The trick is how do we figure out the version, or even a unified name, > of any given external utility?  The answer, as far as the META.yml > approach is concerned is "let the consumers figure it out".  Really. >  We just need to provid

Re: Adding a perl_version key to META.yml

2007-11-19 Thread David Golden
On Nov 19, 2007 9:01 AM, Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We've probably spent more time debating this issue than it would have > > taken to apply the patch and write perl.pm. > > > > And with good reason, because there's likely to be secondary impacts from > this we have not considered

Re: Adding a perl_version key to META.yml

2007-11-19 Thread David Golden
[Whoops -- somewhere along the line Adam and I stopped CC'ing the list. I'd meant my reply to go to all, so I'm forwarding it below.] On Nov 19, 2007 8:10 AM, David Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 19, 2007 3:12 AM, Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ExtUtils::MakeMaker is one

Re: Adding a perl_version key to META.yml

2007-11-19 Thread Adam Kennedy
> > Ideally there would be a way to say "configuration requires perl version > X.Y", > just like we can do with modules. But rather than having a pile of > "perl_requires" and "perl_configure_requires" and "perl_recommends" I for one think "recommends" is a stupid idea, since it's completely amb

Re: Adding a perl_version key to META.yml

2007-11-19 Thread Zefram
Michael G Schwern wrote: >There's an old, but sadly true, joke about some bizarre feature of C and why >it's there. Turns out wy back in the beginning the bizarreness of >the feature was pointed out and a better way to do it given. At the time the >response was "we can't possibly chan

Re: Adding a perl_version key to META.yml

2007-11-19 Thread Zefram
Ken Williams wrote: >On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:09 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: >>When you have a >>thermometer, you can take the onion out of the varnish. > >Say what? As retold by Paul Graham : In The Periodic Table, Primo Levi tells a story that happened when

Re: Adding a perl_version key to META.yml

2007-11-19 Thread Michael G Schwern
David Golden wrote: > On Nov 18, 2007 9:27 PM, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> David Golden wrote: >>> So, yes, it was a crappy design decision/hack, but now we're stuck with it. >> No, we should not wedge ourselves into a corner like this. Preventing a >> better way of doing it fr