Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-17 Thread Kornél Pál
Hi, From: Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] But what percent of .net apps are pure? If that fraction is small, as I suspect it is, then for Mono to really rock the world, it's going to have to tackle impure apps, too. That is of course incredibly difficult, and would require considerable

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-17 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Wow. Well, that was fast. Congrats Kornel! -Original Message- From: Kornél Pál [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com To: Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4/17/2008 3:17:24 AM Subject: Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux Hi, From: Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-16 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, But what percent of .net apps are pure? If that fraction is small, as I suspect it is, then for Mono to really rock the world, it's going to have to tackle impure apps, too. That is of course incredibly difficult, and would require considerable cooperation between the Mono and Wine

[Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-16 Thread Dennis Hayes
Also 100% pure .NET programs can use WinProc which in included in System.Windws.Forms controls. There are more and more 100% pure .NET apps out there. Many of the third party control libraries are using that in their advertisments. I would love to see Mono running on Wine. When

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-11 Thread Andreas Nahr
2008 at 11:07 AM, Michael Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, only managed C++ produces mixed mode assemblies, and only if it's not running in pure mode. Today, Mono can directly run a very large subset of .NET apps that were built on Windows with no or very few

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-11 Thread Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui
Hi, I think we need to find a way to use installed mono (linux version) to be used in wine . For this we need special configuration in wine dialog. In which user can select path on mono linux install. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-11 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need to find a way to use installed mono (linux version) to be used in wine . For this we need special configuration in wine dialog. In which user can select path on mono linux install. The

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-11 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need to find a way to use installed mono (linux version) to be used in wine . The tool 'winetricks', which is used

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-11 Thread Dan Kegel
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Andreas Nahr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Hutchinson wrote: Today, Mono can directly run a very large subset of .NET apps that were built on Windows with no or very few modifications. Got a list of commercial software which was written without

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-11 Thread Rolf Bjarne Kvinge
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mono-devel-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kegel Sent: viernes, 11 de abril de 2008 15:46 To: Andreas Nahr Cc: mono-devel-list@lists.ximian.com Subject: Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:20

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On 4/11/08, Rolf Bjarne Kvinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what percent of .net apps are pure? Quite a big percent actually. Take into account that you can only make impure apps with C++, with C# or VB (or any other .NET language) you can't. Hmm, I think any .NET language can p/invoke

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-11 Thread Rafael Teixeira
Yes P/Invokes do complicate portability, but are not the same thing. P/Invokes can be portable, provided you have native versions of the needed libraries publishing the same API, and they also work with non-x86 processors. X86 ties is the real problem of mixed-mode assemblies, they have embedded

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-11 Thread Kornél Pál
Hi, From: Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] That would require adding support for mixed-mode assemblies to the Windows version of Mono. I don't know how big a job that is, but I bet it'd be a fun project for the right intern to take a whack at. (Anyone interested?) Altought there are relatively

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-11 Thread Rolf Bjarne Kvinge
-Original Message- From: Michael J. Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: sábado, 12 de abril de 2008 3:32 To: Rolf Bjarne Kvinge Subject: Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux On 04/11/2008 07:15 AM, Rolf Bjarne Kvinge wrote: But what percent of .net apps are pure? Quite a big

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-10 Thread Dan Kegel
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Michael Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, only managed C++ produces mixed mode assemblies, and only if it's not running in pure mode. Today, Mono can directly run a very large subset of .NET apps that were built on Windows with no or very few

[Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-09 Thread Dan Kegel
As http://www.mono-project.com/WinForms and http://www.winehq.org/?issue=230#Mono%20Ditching%20Wine explain, Mono ditched Wine about four years ago for some very good reasons, and has been happily making progress on its own without worrying about Wine. In those four years, Wine has matured to the

Re: [Mono-dev] Mono on wine redux

2008-04-09 Thread Michael Hutchinson
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:54 AM, Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip For the moment, Wine is happy to let people choose between Mono and MS .Net. Since most .net apps are built with Microsoft tools, they're nearly universally mixed- mode assemblies, so people will of neccessity load MS