Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
From: Miguel de Icaza [mailto:mig...@xamarin.com] There is no need to presume, the actual issue was just articulated on a thread, please read it. Pull requests do not work well with Mono.   They need to be discussed in the mailing list Did I miss something? Do you not recognize that

Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-21 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 21/10/2014 13:05, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) wrote: From: Miguel de Icaza [mailto:mig...@xamarin.com] There is no need to presume, the actual issue was just articulated on a thread, please read it. Pull requests do not work well with Mono. They need to be discussed in the mailing list

Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-21 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Did I miss something? Do you not recognize that there's a problem here? Yes, you did not read my email on the other thread. What are we supposed to do when we do all that stuff - discuss in mailing list, pay for Xamarin, contact Xamarin support, file or find bug in bugzilla, and even write

Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-21 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Unfortunately there were issues, most obviously with an exception trying to show a textbox. So I read up on how to file a bug report (http://www.mono-project.com/community/bugs/make-a-good-bug-report/) and did so, with a test case that shows the problem in a straightforward manner. Glad

Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-21 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 21/10/2014 16:18, Miguel de Icaza wrote: Unfortunately there were issues, most obviously with an exception trying to show a textbox. So I read up on how to file a bug report (http://www.mono-project.com/community/bugs/make-a-good-bug-report/) and did so,

Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-21 Thread Miguel de Icaza
And that's impossible without some level of time-investment in engagement - such as having somebody respond to bug reports even if this is to say sorry this is unmaintained - your problem Seems like you just volunteered to do this for all the bugs that come in for Windows.Forms :-) If only

Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-21 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 21/10/2014 16:37, Miguel de Icaza wrote: And that's impossible without some level of time-investment in engagement - such as having somebody respond to bug reports even if this is to say sorry this is unmaintained - your problem Seems like you just volunteered to do this

Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-21 Thread Robert Jordan
On 21.10.2014 13:05, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) wrote: From: Miguel de Icaza [mailto:mig...@xamarin.com] There is no need to presume, the actual issue was just articulated on a thread, please read it. Pull requests do not work well with Mono. They need to be discussed in the mailing list Did

Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
From: Miguel de Icaza [mailto:mig...@xamarin.com] I have not seen you discuss any pull requests on the mailing list.  Did I miss something? In order to respond to this question, I just reviewed all the history of my pull request, but there was a lot of volume in disjoint places (github,

Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-20 Thread Miguel de Icaza
The underlying question is, How can we improve the state of affairs and allow a better sense of open source community involvement and contribution? The presumption so far has been, the enormous backlog of pull requests and ignored bugfixes is caused by the necessity to test and review them,

[Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
This might have gotten buried in the other thread. So here's a new thread to bring it up to attention. Miguel, this question is probably for you. (And by the way, thank you for everything, and especially thank you for participating here.) The bottleneck that's preventing much community

Re: [Mono-dev] Unit Testing process: Community Contributions

2014-10-17 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, The build bot does some of this work when you submit a pull request. It does not cover all platforms, nor all configurations, but it is a good first step. But this is not a problem. Not every patch affects all systems, and most of the code is cross platform, so testing on one is