Re: [Mono-list] Coding Standards, etc.

2003-10-11 Thread Giuseppe Greco
Hi Pablo, On Sun, 2003-10-12 at 01:56, Pablo Fischer wrote: > Hi! > > Well reading that C# GuideLines > (http://developer.agamura.com/technotes/csharp-coding-guidelines/) and > in the section for comments appears a comment (duh!) that say that it's > not so good to use the C# Document Style (the

[Mono-list] Re: [DotGNU]Re: Collaboration on alternatives to the US-patent-endangered APIs?

2003-10-11 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, > > If you did such a careful study with your lawyer, would you mind > > publishing it so others can review it? > > And I suppose you would just turn over internal Ximian/Novell legal advice and > developer discussions should I ask for it? Nice try to avoid the apology. Rhys, I am not t

[Mono-list] Re: [DotGNU]Re: Collaboration on alternatives to the US-patent-endangered APIs?

2003-10-11 Thread Rhys Weatherley
On Sunday 12 October 2003 06:47 am, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > But being selective about what you consider to be > thin-wrapper, and what you don't is just an exercise in deception. That's out of line and you should apologise. It was based on a careful analysis of the API's and other similar API'

[Mono-list] Re: [DotGNU]Re: Collaboration on alternatives to the US-patent-endangered APIs?

2003-10-11 Thread Miguel de Icaza
> > But being selective about what you consider to be > > thin-wrapper, and what you don't is just an exercise in deception. > > That's out of line and you should apologise. It was based on a careful > analysis of the API's and other similar API's in the past (MFC of 10 years > ago does everyt

Re: [Mono-list] Coding Standards, etc.

2003-10-11 Thread Pablo Fischer
Hi! Well reading that C# GuideLines (http://developer.agamura.com/technotes/csharp-coding-guidelines/) and in the section for comments appears a comment (duh!) that say that it's not so good to use the C# Document Style (the three slashes) so Why its so necesarry tu use the and all that stuff? t

RE: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Giuseppe Greco
I've tried to re-install the whole from scratch into a new machine... but the problem is exactly the same... At that point I'm desperate and really don't know where to look at... Gius_. On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 20:42, Gonzalo Paniagua Javier wrote: > El sáb, 11-10-2003 a las 19:58, Giuseppe Greco e

[Mono-list] RE: [DotGNU]Re: Collaboration on alternatives to the US-patent-endangered APIs?

2003-10-11 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, > > Maybe you are not familiar with it, but take my word, it is > > radically different. Both at the rendering level (Drawing) and at the > > toolkit level (Windows.Forms). > > > > I don't agree. The drawing primitives are the same and all they've done is > replaced handles with cla

RE: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Giuseppe Greco
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 20:42, Gonzalo Paniagua Javier wrote: > El sáb, 11-10-2003 a las 19:58, Giuseppe Greco escribió: > > I've given a look at the /var/log/httpd/error_log file... > > > > Well, here are the error messages I've found: > > Permission denied: access to /mono/bin/index.php denied > >

Re: [Mono-list] RE: [Mono-devel-list] Surveys: Mono 1.0 andMonoConference.

2003-10-11 Thread Jonathan Gilbert
At 07:54 PM 11/10/2003 +0100, Jay Bennie jay-at-lincore.co.uk |mono-list subscription| wrote: >- Original Message - >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > I think the solution to this particular problem is: >> > >> > * Release with a name that specifically states whats in it >> > >> > Mono Core

Re: [Mono-list] RE: [Mono-devel-list] Surveys: Mono 1.0 andMonoConference.

2003-10-11 Thread Jay Bennie
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I think the solution to this particular problem is: > > > > * Release with a name that specifically states whats in it > > > > Mono Core 1.0 > > > > * Release a roadmap with the plans for when features will be > > added to the full Mono

RE: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
El sáb, 11-10-2003 a las 19:58, Giuseppe Greco escribió: > I've given a look at the /var/log/httpd/error_log file... > > Well, here are the error messages I've found: > Permission denied: access to /mono/bin/index.php denied > Permission denied: access to /mono/bin/index.html denied > ... > > Tha

RE: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Giuseppe Greco
Gonzalo, Permissions/user of /tmp/mod_mono_server are OK: srwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 0 Oct 11 12:39 mod_mono_server ... and here's how I start mono-mod-server.exe: mono /usr/bin/mono-mod-server.exe --root /usr/share/doc/xsp/test --applications /mono:. It seems to be all OK... but for s

Re: [Mono-list] RE: [Mono-devel-list] Surveys: Mono 1.0 andMonoConference.

2003-10-11 Thread yoros
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 10:57:41AM -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > Hello, > > > On the subject of a mono v1.0 - As a developer on both windows and linux > > tring to make a business audiance understand that mono 1.0 is not > > compatiable with .net 1.0 would be disastrous - don't do it . Mono has

RE: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
El sáb, 11-10-2003 a las 19:58, Giuseppe Greco escribió: > I've given a look at the /var/log/httpd/error_log file... > > Well, here are the error messages I've found: > Permission denied: access to /mono/bin/index.php denied > Permission denied: access to /mono/bin/index.html denied > ... You sho

Re: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
El sáb, 11-10-2003 a las 16:55, Giuseppe Greco escribió: > Gonzalo, > > Thanks for your support! > > Now the server is able to listen either on port 80 or on port 8080, > but is unable to execute ASP modules. I just get the message > > > "The server encountered an internal error and was unabl

RE: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Giuseppe Greco
I've given a look at the /var/log/httpd/error_log file... Well, here are the error messages I've found: Permission denied: access to /mono/bin/index.php denied Permission denied: access to /mono/bin/index.html denied ... That's strange... Gius_. On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 17:03, Jeremiah McElroy wro

[Mono-list] RE: [DotGNU]Re: Collaboration on alternatives to the US-patent-endangered APIs?

2003-10-11 Thread Thong (Tum) Nguyen
> > Maybe you are not familiar with it, but take my word, it is > radically different. Both at the rendering level (Drawing) and at the > toolkit level (Windows.Forms). > I don't agree. The drawing primitives are the same and all they've done is replaced handles with classes. The API is a

[Mono-list] Mono Make file requires Full monocharge to be boot strapped

2003-10-11 Thread John BouAntoun
Hi Guys, As per Miguel's request I'm posting this to the list. Currently did the following on mono fresh out of cvs first downloaded monolite and installed exes -> /usr/local/bin and dlls -> /usr/local/lib cd /monocvs/mono ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local make su make install At this point mak

[Mono-list] Re: Collaboration on alternatives to the US-patent-endangered APIs?

2003-10-11 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Norbert, In Mono, we have not only implemented the .NET APIs, but we have also encouraged developers to create a large collection of extra APIs (see: http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/tmp/map.png) because we are building Mono with two goals in mind: * Compatibility with the .NET Fram

Re: [Mono-list] Coding Standards, etc.

2003-10-11 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, > Has anyone published any documentation on what coding standards Mono > source should follow? I am mainly concerned about the use of > Hungarian notation and the placement of brackets in the source. There > are a lot of inconsistencies in the CVS source I’ve inspected. Some other people

Re: [Mono-list] RE: [Mono-devel-list] Surveys: Mono 1.0 andMonoConference.

2003-10-11 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello, > On the subject of a mono v1.0 - As a developer on both windows and linux > tring to make a business audiance understand that mono 1.0 is not > compatiable with .net 1.0 would be disastrous - don't do it . Mono has to be > feature and version number exact with MS if this is to work. Basic

RE: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Jeremiah McElroy
I have also experienced this problem on my PC at work. I have yet to try this at home, but I'm assuming that I will end up with similar results. Jeremiah McElroy www.facility9.com :: -Original Message- :: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giuseppe Greco

Re: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Giuseppe Greco
Gonzalo, Thanks for your support! Now the server is able to listen either on port 80 or on port 8080, but is unable to execute ASP modules. I just get the message "The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Either the server is overloaded or there was

Re: [Mono-list] Coding Standards, etc.

2003-10-11 Thread yoros
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 04:21:04PM +0200, Malte Hildingson wrote: > > As it stands, those conventions does not match the ones in > /mcs/class/README and does little to ensure consistency in the class > libraries at this point. I'm not sure that was what was envisaged here but > using several, inco

Re: [Mono-list] Coding Standards, etc.

2003-10-11 Thread Malte Hildingson
As it stands, those conventions does not match the ones in /mcs/class/README and does little to ensure consistency in the class libraries at this point. I'm not sure that was what was envisaged here but using several, inconsistent conventions probably does not help. (I do leave for someone else t

Re: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
El sáb, 11-10-2003 a las 13:13, Giuseppe Greco escribió: Forgot to answer this: > Just another question: is it possible to use mod_mono > without xsp? If no, how can I start mod_mono_server.exe as a > deamon (mono mod_mono_server.exe & doesn't the trick)? There's a --nonstop option that should b

Re: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Gonzalo Paniagua Javier
El sáb, 11-10-2003 a las 13:13, Giuseppe Greco escribió: > Hi all, > > finally was able to successfully install mod_mono and xsp. > > I've strictly followed the instructions in the mod_mono/INSTALL > file, and everything has gone well until I haven't tried it. > > If I try http://www.agamura.com

Re: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Giuseppe Greco
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 13:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 01:13:17PM +0200, Giuseppe Greco wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > finally was able to successfully install mod_mono and xsp. > > > > I've strictly followed the instructions in the mod_mono/INSTALL > > file, and everything h

[Mono-list] Still problems with file permissions...

2003-10-11 Thread Giuseppe Greco
Hi all, There are still problems with file permissions when creating new files... Try this: 1. Unzip the attached program and run it mono mkfile.exe myfile1 2. Create a second file touch myfile2 3. list the generated file ll myfile* Here's the result: -rw---1 genius genius

Re: [Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread yoros
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 01:13:17PM +0200, Giuseppe Greco wrote: > Hi all, > > finally was able to successfully install mod_mono and xsp. > > I've strictly followed the instructions in the mod_mono/INSTALL > file, and everything has gone well until I haven't tried it. > > If I try http://www.agam

[Mono-list] mod_mono: final rush

2003-10-11 Thread Giuseppe Greco
Hi all, finally was able to successfully install mod_mono and xsp. I've strictly followed the instructions in the mod_mono/INSTALL file, and everything has gone well until I haven't tried it. If I try http://www.agamura.com:8080/mono/index.aspx from a web browser, I always get the following erro

Re: [Mono-list] Coding Standards, etc.

2003-10-11 Thread Giuseppe Greco
On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 18:02, Raneses, Jason wrote: > Has anyone published any documentation on what coding standards Mono > source should follow? I am mainly concerned about the use of > Hungarian notation and the placement of brackets in the source. There > are a lot of inconsistencies in the CV

Re: [Mono-list] dependency problem with mono .28

2003-10-11 Thread yoros
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 01:23:54PM -0400, Daniel Buskirk wrote: > Sirs: > > I have been successfully, and enjoyably, running mono 0.24. However, when I > attempted to upgrade to the latest release, I found I did not have the > requisite libgc version (2.0). I have not been able to find the corre

Re: [Mono-list] Coding Standards, etc.

2003-10-11 Thread Malte Hildingson
There are some general guidelines in /mcs/class/README covering (at least) the issues you mention here, I'm not sure everyone is reading those however. On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Raneses, Jason wrote: > Has anyone published any documentation on what coding standards Mono source > should follow? I am

[Mono-list] RE: [DotGNU]Re: Collaboration on alternatives to the US-patent-en dangered APIs?

2003-10-11 Thread Dawkins, David
> According to the FSF patent lawyer, this design activity needs to be > done outside of the US, and the person who does the design should not > take it into the US with him. I'm curious. What is the legally recognised tangible form of such a design? Is it a printed document? A computer docum

[Mono-list] dependency problem with mono .28

2003-10-11 Thread Daniel Buskirk
Sirs: I have been successfully, and enjoyably, running mono 0.24. However, when I attempted to upgrade to the latest release, I found I did not have the requisite libgc version (2.0). I have not been able to find the correct library on the web. Could you direct me? I am running mono on Suse GN

[Mono-list] Coding Standards, etc.

2003-10-11 Thread Raneses, Jason
Has anyone published any documentation on what coding standards Mono source should follow?  I am mainly concerned about the use of Hungarian notation and the placement of brackets in the source.  There are a lot of inconsistencies in the CVS source I’ve inspected.   Thanks,   Jason  

[Mono-list] Re: [Mono-devel-list] Surveys: Mono 1.0 and Mono Conference.

2003-10-11 Thread Jordi Mas
Todd Berman wrote: Has anybody considered Europe? There are lots of contributors to Mono from Europe and also we do not have software patents (well, yet) :-) Thanks, Jordi, I have considered Europe, however, and this is just me personally, it is far far too expensive in many regards. 1) Air tra

[Mono-list] Re: [Mono-devel-list] Surveys: Mono 1.0 and Mono Conference.

2003-10-11 Thread Jordi Mas
Darren Martz wrote: Has anyone considered Vancouver, BC Canada? There is a major airport and facilities for hosting such an event. Access from Europe, Latin-American, Asia, and the US are all possible. It's close to the American press if drawing media attention is part of the agenda. Has any

[Mono-list] RE: [Mono-devel-list] Surveys: Mono 1.0 and Mono Conference.

2003-10-11 Thread Sandor, David
I have not contributed much to the Mono effort as a whole, however I have some very real uses (as I am sure many others on this list have as well) for the Mono release. I can tell you that in order to adopt mono in my shop and begin a more focused push to Linux with Mono I need (at a minimum) the