Xamarin Studio / MonoDevelop is not really going to use MVVM, it will use MVC.
El 18/11/2014, a les 21:33, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com va escriure:
Jonathan can you comment on Xamarins plans for MVVM with Xamarin
Studio/MonoDevelop, can we expect GTK# support to be added to
MVVMCross,
On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:55 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote:
The fact that XS/MD is or was based on Xwt is a good sign
based on might be a bit strong. It *uses* Xwt.
Most of the current Xamarin Studio/MonoDevelop code is based on Gtk#. *Parts*
were done in
Jonathan can you comment on Xamarins plans for MVVM with Xamarin
Studio/MonoDevelop, can we expect GTK# support to be added to
MVVMCross, or is there some other approach you will be taking.
Cheers,
Daniel Hughes
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Jonathan Pryor jonpr...@vt.edu wrote:
On Nov 17,
On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com wrote:
Jonathan can you comment on Xamarins plans
I can't comment on any plans for the IDEs (or anything else that isn't related
to Xamarin.Android), as I don't work on them. I have no idea what they plan on
doing.
- Jon
Obviously you can do MVVM with any GUI tool kit, however what
MVVMCross allows you to do is reuse your view models across it's
supported platforms. That's what makes MVVM such a good approach for
mobile because you can reuse your View Models across IOS Android and
Windows Phone.
GTK# is not
From: mono-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-list-
boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Hughes
2. Is packaged for all platforms (that means that on linux rpm and deb
packages are included in the repositories of the Major distros) and
I disagree. Whether you get some
From: Miguel de Icaza [mailto:mig...@xamarin.com]
On Windows it is quite decent, it is a thin layer on top of the native Win32
API. So if you want a simple Win32 app, it is ideal.
On Mac, you are slightly wrong. There are two backends. An X11 backend
and a Cocoa backend, so you do
OK Lets take NewtonSoft.Json as an example. Lets say I want to use it
in my opensource project and that I want that project to be included
in the Ubuntu Repositories. To do that I need to get my project into
debian. So because NewtonSoft.Json is not available as a deb package
in debian I include
From: Daniel Hughes [mailto:tramps...@gmail.com]
If you want to produce a cross platform app your best bet is to use an
architecture (MVC or similar) which allows you to use a native GUI
toolkit on each plaform.
You didn't say anything about Eto.Forms
From: Daniel Hughes [mailto:tramps...@gmail.com]
Lets say I want to use it
in my opensource project and that I want that project to be included
in the Ubuntu Repositories. To do that I need to get my project into
debian. So because NewtonSoft.Json is not available as a deb package
in
From: Daniel Hughes [mailto:tramps...@gmail.com]
Xwt is immature, has limited widget support, Is largely unproven
(nothing is using it, except maybe a very little in MonoDevelop) and
is abandoned (no commits for 11 months)
Wait now - I can't comment on it being immature, or limited widget
Thanks for the correction, I must have been looking in the wrong place.
It should be noted that Xamarin are moving away from using Xwt for
Xamarin Studio Miguel De Icaza stated this in the dotnet foundation
forums.
From: Daniel Hughes [mailto:tramps...@gmail.com]
It should be noted that Xamarin are moving away from using Xwt for
Xamarin Studio Miguel De Icaza stated this in the dotnet foundation
forums.
http://forums.dotnetfoundation.org/t/will-the-windows-only-library-get-
open-sourced-too/307/6
Hi Daniel,
Check out QtSharp https://github.com/ddobrev/QtSharp, which is being
developed by the same developer behind the Qyoto project.
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com wrote:
The Qyoto bindings are well out of date, they do not support qt5, they
are
QtSharp doesn't look ready for use yet.
Here is the requirement for a GUI toolkit to be ready for use.
1. Works and is stable on all target platforms
2. Is packaged for all platforms (that means that on linux rpm and deb
packages are included in the repositories of the Major distros) and
In theory, yes, but in practice then it was always a little flaky on
Linux, had rendering issues on anything but simple layouts, and had at
least one major issue I can think of on OS X.
Also, a recent post [1] said that it was based on deprecated technology
and that you shouldn't expect [it] to
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boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of IBBoard
In theory, yes, but in practice then it was always a little flaky on
Linux, had rendering issues on anything but simple layouts, and had at
least one major issue I can think of on OS
From: mono-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-list-
boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
Does something similar exist for Mac OSX, Windows Desktop, Linux?
I stumbled upon this: https://github.com/picoe/Eto
Haven't tried it yet. Maybe it's great, maybe
I'd like to see a good semantic system that'd make it easy to map to actual
controls individual to the platform and apply styling.
Thanks,
Michael McGlothlin
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 15, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote:
From:
Why not use something like Qyoto (C# bindings for Qt) that uses Qt's
GUI libraries for cross-platform development?
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote:
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Windows.Forms is the oldest and junkiest thing available, even on
Windows. It's even worse on mono because it's buggy, and worse still on
OSX because it requires X11.
On Windows it is quite decent, it is a thin layer on top of the native
Win32 API. So if you want a simple Win32 app, it
The Qyoto bindings are well out of date, they do not support qt5, they
are pretty much unmaintained, they are not packages for linux and
there is not a single opensource project (that I know of) using them.
The GTK bindings are stuck on GTK2, Xamarin has no interest in GTK3
because they want to
I'm aware of Xamarin.Forms, but apparently only for iOS, Android, Windows
Mobile.
Does something similar exist for Mac OSX, Windows Desktop, Linux?
I stumbled upon this: https://github.com/picoe/Eto
Haven't tried it yet. Maybe it's great, maybe not. Are there some additional
competing
On 11/14/2014 7:34 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) wrote:
I'm aware of Xamarin.Forms, but apparently only for iOS, Android,
Windows Mobile.
Does something similar exist for Mac OSX, Windows Desktop, Linux?
I've been out of .Net dev for a bit now, but isn't that what
Windows.Forms is?
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