Re: [Monotone-devel] [announce] new list: monotone-announce

2006-01-12 Thread Daniel THOMPSON
Nathaniel Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For the convenience of people who want to keep an eye on release announcements and such, but don't want to hear about all the ongoing chatter, a new, low-volume, moderated list is now available: List address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Request address: [EMAIL

Re: [Monotone-devel] monotone-viz can't parse?

2006-01-12 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:57:36 +0100, Olivier Andrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: oliv__a> My latest commit is andrieu/2006-01-08T15:04 . d677d8bffbb6afb97e06de3f0fc0f6059969ed2b oliv__a> If it's a parse error you should get an error window when oliv__a> clicking on a

Re: [Monotone-devel] monotone-viz can't parse?

2006-01-12 Thread Olivier Andrieu
Hej Richard, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [Thursday 12 January 2006] : > I've built monotone-viz (latest possible incarnation) with 0.26pre1 > (well, actually, latest possible incarnation of mainline monotone as > well), My latest commit is andrieu/2006-01-08T15:04 . > and am noticing tha

[Monotone-devel] Killing heads, again

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce Stephens
Suppose someone (with suitable access) decided to start rearranging monotone.texi, and committed a revision on n.v.m that removed monotone.texi (the idea being that Makefile would create it from smaller files, I guess). Anyway, it's resolved that that's not a good idea, so how do you recover?

Re: [Monotone-devel] [announce] new list: monotone-announce

2006-01-12 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 08:44:44AM +, Daniel THOMPSON wrote: > Nathaniel Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >For the convenience of people who want to keep an eye on release > >announcements and such, but don't want to hear about all the ongoing > >chatter, a new, low-volume, moderated list is

Re: [Monotone-devel] Killing heads, again

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce Stephens
Justin Patrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Forgive me if I'm being ignorant somehow (I'm not a heavy monotone > user) but isn't this what "disapprove" is for? No. disapprove commits a reversal of a revision. So if I have a graph: digraph G { base -> a; a -> b; b

[Monotone-devel] RFC: cvs import/pull and */CVS/* files

2006-01-12 Thread Christof Petig
Last month Daniel Carosone proposed to store the corresponding CVS revisions for a given (imported or cvssynced) monotone revision within the usual files: */CVS/Entries, */CVS/Repository instead of using a hidden file (like .mt-cvs_revisions). I see some drawbacks and some benefits, what do you th

Re: [Monotone-devel] monotone-viz can't parse?

2006-01-12 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:57:36AM +0100, Olivier Andrieu wrote: > Sure, shouldn't take much time ... if you can provide me with a > revision that trips m-viz or, better, if you can point me to the > precise grammar of revisions. Probably a good thing to look at, since there are definitely things

Re: [Monotone-devel] monotone-viz can't parse?

2006-01-12 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:56:28 -0800, Nathaniel Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: njs> Probably the "automate get_revision" documentation in the manual njs> is wrong and misleading now. Speaking of formats, I find it a bit surprising that the revision for a merge only

Re: [Monotone-devel] Killing heads, again

2006-01-12 Thread Justin Patrin
On 1/12/06, Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Suppose someone (with suitable access) decided to start rearranging > monotone.texi, and committed a revision on n.v.m that removed > monotone.texi (the idea being that Makefile would create it from > smaller files, I guess). > > Anyway, it's

[Monotone-devel] Re: monotone-viz can't parse?

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce Stephens
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:56:28 -0800, Nathaniel > Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > njs> Probably the "automate get_revision" documentation in the manual > njs> is wrong and misleading now. > > Speaking of

Re: [Monotone-devel] monotone-viz can't parse?

2006-01-12 Thread Olivier Andrieu
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker [Thursday 12 January 2006] : > oliv__a> If it's a parse error you should get an error window when > oliv__a> clicking on a node > > Yup, "Error while parsing revision set of {ID}", with {ID} being the > revisions ID. > > oliv__a> Could you extract some of the

[Monotone-devel] Re: monotone-viz can't parse?

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce Stephens
Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > I think that would be a bug, but I don't think it's true, is it? For > example, ff8534867e5887ee95b64b7d3e931fc6fdf5dbd2 is a merge of > 06c7bee4908ccedcc08af304925b75aefcd93e3e and > 41eef7bebdea151436fc9f0331f6297e64e8a491, and has two old_rev

Re: [Monotone-devel] Killing heads, again

2006-01-12 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:58:16PM +, Bruce Stephens wrote: > I guess you could merge, but edit out the changes from this fork, but > that's annoying and (if I understand the lifetime issues correctly) > can't remove the deletion of monotone.texi as one would hope (once a > file is dead in any

Re: [Monotone-devel] monotone-viz can't parse?

2006-01-12 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 10:04:24PM +0100, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:56:28 -0800, Nathaniel > Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > njs> Probably the "automate get_revision" documentation in the manual > njs> is wrong and misleading

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: monotone-viz can't parse?

2006-01-12 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:00:54PM +, Bruce Stephens wrote: > I guess db rosterify doesn't rewrite the ids in changelogs? Ah, correct, it does not. -- Nathaniel -- Damn the Solar System. Bad light; planets too distant; pestered with comets; feeble contrivance; could make a better one mysel

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: monotone-viz can't parse?

2006-01-12 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:39:46 +, Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: monotone> Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: monotone> monotone> > Speaking of formats, I find it a bit surprising that the monotone> > revision for a merge only sho

[Monotone-devel] 'monotone log' gives, eh, interesting results...

2006-01-12 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
This is a bit of an edge case :-) I understand that on the bleeding edge, monotone log doesn't show merges any more. In some cases, the result is a bit... interesting! ] : ; monotone-0.26pre1 log -r 817eddb284f82ffb8b4b5db11540f69495e4d64e --last=1 ]

[Monotone-devel] Re: Killing heads, again

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce Stephens
Nathaniel Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:58:16PM +, Bruce Stephens wrote: [...] >> So how about a variant of get_revision_cert_trust which is only called >> on things which are heads and which gives a final determination, given >> all the certs attached to a r

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: Killing heads, again

2006-01-12 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:37:52PM +, Bruce Stephens wrote: > It's kind of how we do things at work: we use a CVS repository > together with scripts which commit multiple files more or less at > once, but before committing, we send out proposed changes to one or > two people for review. > >

Re: [Monotone-devel] 'monotone log' gives, eh, interesting results...

2006-01-12 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
Thinking more about it, and discussing it on IRC, I'm now wondering what the reasoning behind making log skip merges by default was. It seems to me like the benefit for users isn't that great and, as shown in my previous message, can be a bit confusing. It seems to me that this change really bene

[Monotone-devel] Re: Killing heads, again

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce Stephens
Daniel Carosone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:37:52PM +, Bruce Stephens wrote: [...] >> So I'm imagining how we might work using some other system. Our >> way of working tends to involve using CVS working copies as >> distributed branches, and we email patches for

[Monotone-devel] monotonies at codecon?

2006-01-12 Thread Emile Snyder
Hi all, I've been out of the monotone loop for quite a while again, but I just noticed that Nathaniel is going to be presenting at CodeCon in San Francisco this February. I'll be there for the show, and would like to offer to buy any monotone developers who are interested a beer (or beverage of y