Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: hypothetical - future-dated certs (Re: Monotone Security)

2008-10-20 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 02:30:27PM +0200, Markus Wanner wrote: > Looks like we are just approaching the problem from different angles. > I've been analyzing what's required to convert to atomic certs (or > super-certs or whatever you'd like to call it). I'm thinking that we > need to clean up our c

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: hypothetical - future-dated certs (Re: Monotone Security)

2008-10-20 Thread Markus Wanner
Hi, Daniel Carosone wrote: > That's kind of my point about the separate date certs we have > currently. You propose a mechanism whereby an out-of-order or > future-dated date cert would be considered invalid and untrusted -- > instead of now where it's trusted but essentially ignored (other than

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: hypothetical - future-dated certs (Re: Monotone Security)

2008-10-20 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:31:32AM +0200, Markus Wanner wrote: > > In particular, my concern is that despite agreeing and acknowleding > > that there can't be a global clock, warnings or errors like this help > > to encourage in the users' minds that there is a global clock anyway. > > Can we real

[Monotone-devel] Re: hypothetical - future-dated certs (Re: Monotone Security)

2008-10-20 Thread Markus Wanner
Hi, Daniel Carosone wrote: > I'm not so sure.. I'd happily go for 'strange' or some other word, > rather than 'wrong'. At the very least, I'd like to try and work > through all the cases we can think of where this might arise, and just > confirm whether a sensible or legitimate interpretation c