Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-28 Thread Brian May
> "Justin" == Justin Patrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Justin> What conversions do you mean? Any decent text editor Justin> should be able to deal with any line ending and not mess Justin> with it. Of course, I use emacs which does the right thing Justin> with any of the three

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-28 Thread hendrik
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 07:43:51AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Which suggests one option is to > * recognise line-ends of any variety > * ignore the line-end type when merging lines > * but then, for lines that haven't changed except for line ending, I mean, lines that got line-end

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-28 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 01:28:42PM -0800, Justin Patrin wrote: > On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Some OS's make it hard for rank beginners (though possibly experienced > >on other systems) to find out how to do the necessary conversions. But > >that is not a version co

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:19:34 -0600, "Kelly F. Hickel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: kfh> Richard, we have a version of cvs that runs on VMS. It's been 10 kfh> years since I worked with RMS, but IIRC a C program could open a kfh> file in text mode, printf a string like

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread Justin Patrin
On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 10:22:25AM -0800, Justin Patrin wrote: > On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 11:52:53AM +, Bruce Stephens wrote: > >> Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 10:59:13PM +0100, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker > wrote: > > And yet, we're still speaking about systems where the only difference > > is a character or two. On a record oriented filesystem, you MUST > > convert text files to actual separate records (lines), or anythin

[Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread Bruce Stephens
"Justin Patrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > As a heavy user of version control systems (CVS, SVN, and MTN > mostly) I'm also against any automatic conversion of text line > endings. While I understand that "some editors" and "some programs" > don't like certain line endings, in the genera

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 10:59:13PM +0100, Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: > And yet, we're still speaking about systems where the only difference > is a character or two. On a record oriented filesystem, you MUST > convert text files to actual separate records (lines), or anything > that deal

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:22:25 -0800, "Justin Patrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: papercrane> As a heavy user of version control systems (CVS, SVN, and papercrane> MTN mostly) I'm also against any automatic conversion of papercrane> text line endings. While I understand

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 10:22:25AM -0800, Justin Patrin wrote: > On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 11:52:53AM +, Bruce Stephens wrote: > >> Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> > That leads me back

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread Justin Patrin
On 11/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 11:52:53AM +, Bruce Stephens wrote: > Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > That leads me back to thinking that we still need to mark files that > > are getting changed, and t

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 11:52:53AM +, Bruce Stephens wrote: > Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > That leads me back to thinking that we still need to mark files that > > are getting changed, and that something automatic should happen to > > them, so a fi

[Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread Bruce Stephens
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > That leads me back to thinking that we still need to mark files that > are getting changed, and that something automatic should happen to > them, so a file will look the same checked out as before it got > checked in. I'm sure we

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-27 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:49:26 +0100, Ulf Ochsenfahrt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: ulf> Just to clear this up. No I'm not saying that the conversion ulf> stuff should be removed. I don't mind it being there for people ulf> to use, as long as its not enabled by default, w

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-26 Thread Ulf Ochsenfahrt
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:37:12 +, Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: monotone> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: monotone> monotone> >> "Richard" == Richard Levitte <- VMS Whacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes:

Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-26 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:37:12 +, Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: monotone> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: monotone> monotone> >> "Richard" == Richard Levitte <- VMS Whacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: monotone> > monotone> > Richard> So

[Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-26 Thread Bruce Stephens
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Richard" == Richard Levitte <- VMS Whacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: > > Richard> So, what I hear you say is that we should remove all the > conversion > Richard> stuff that exists today. Is that correct? > > What conversion stuff exists t

[Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-24 Thread Lapo Luchini
Nuno Lucas wrote: > On 11/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If we use an internal line ending standard, we should consider the >> possibility of using the standard newline character NEL, "Next Line", >> 0x85, unicode U+0085. > You are forgetting I can (and actually I am) versio

[Monotone-devel] Re: line endings as project policy

2006-11-22 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Justin Patrin schreef: > On 11/21/06, Derek Scherger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So, would this be better as a (shared and versioned) project policy >> entry with line ending styles specified by file name patterns. It seems >> like it would handle t