Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-25 Thread Richard Levitte
In message 4ced08f9.1040...@bluegap.ch on Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:45:45 +0100, Markus Wanner mar...@bluegap.ch said: markus (After all, who's going to trust a revision control system markus that doesn't even get its own versioning correct?) Oh, I just have to pick on this one: revisions and

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-25 Thread Richard Levitte
In message 4ced08f9.1040...@bluegap.ch on Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:45:45 +0100, Markus Wanner mar...@bluegap.ch said: markus For monotone, we had netsync flag days, which represent full markus incompatibilities (can't speak to each other). Then we also had database markus migrations, where a one-way

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-25 Thread Markus Wanner
On 11/24/2010 09:54 PM, Richard Levitte wrote: Oh, I just have to pick on this one: revisions and versions aren't the same thing... Okay, then let's talk about VCSes.. ;-) Regards Markus ___ Monotone-devel mailing list Monotone-devel@nongnu.org

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-25 Thread Markus Wanner
On 11/24/2010 09:56 PM, Richard Levitte wrote: 0.99 is different enough from 0.48 to deserve being the upcoming 1.0, Huh? I'm sorry if that's ignorant, but I didn't realize any change in 0.99, except for it being slower, but less annoying with the commit message editor than 0.48. there are

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-24 Thread Stephen Leake
Richard Levitte rich...@levitte.org writes: In message 4cec7683.2090...@prjek.net on Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:20:51 -0600, Timothy Brownawell tbrow...@prjek.net said: tbrownaw Option 1 tbrownaw1.0 or 1.0.0, 1.0.1, 1.0.2 - release tbrownaw1.1- dev tbrownaw???

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-24 Thread Thomas Keller
Am 24.11.2010 03:20, schrieb Timothy Brownawell: Option 2 1.0, 1.0.1, 1.0.2, ... - release 1.0.90 - dev 1.0.91, 1.0.92 - RC 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.1.2, ... - release +1 Thomas. -- GPG-Key 0x160D1092 | tommyd3...@jabber.ccc.de |

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-24 Thread Markus Wanner
Hi, On 11/24/2010 03:20 AM, Timothy Brownawell wrote: Also from IRC we have: thm_ the whole release numbering discussion is not meaningful wrt rpm, as Fedora for example has its own rules, forbidding non-numerics in the version part of an rpm. Really? There are so many open source

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-24 Thread Thomas Moschny
Markus Wanner mar...@bluegap.ch: On 11/24/2010 03:20 AM, Timothy Brownawell wrote: Also from IRC we have: thm_ the whole release numbering discussion is not meaningful wrt rpm, as Fedora for example has its own rules, forbidding non-numerics in the version part of an rpm.

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Levitte
In message 4ceb4d64.9050...@prjek.net on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:13:08 -0600, Timothy Brownawell tbrow...@prjek.net said: tbrownaw On 11/22/2010 10:48 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: tbrownaw On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:46:49PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: tbrownaw On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 05:28:23PM -0600,

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-23 Thread Tero Koskinen
Hi, On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 07:36:30 +0100 Martin Dvorak wrote: Hi, I never was fan of the x.99.x/x.9x/etc. version numbering for betas of new major versions. I've been thinking about stable/development version numbering recently (and also in the past) and I think it's better to call such

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-23 Thread Timothy Brownawell
On 11/23/2010 03:17 AM, Richard Levitte wrote: In message4ceb4d64.9050...@prjek.net on Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:13:08 -0600, Timothy Brownawelltbrow...@prjek.net said: tbrownaw On 11/22/2010 10:48 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: tbrownawOn Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:46:49PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Levitte
In message 4cec7683.2090...@prjek.net on Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:20:51 -0600, Timothy Brownawell tbrow...@prjek.net said: tbrownaw left over wins, so (blank) will sort first. So it would be in order tbrownaw0.99 tbrownaw0.99dev and 0.99~dev (these are indistinguishable) tbrownaw0.99.1

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-22 Thread Ludovic Brenta
Martin Dvorak wrote: I never was fan of the x.99.x/x.9x/etc. version numbering for betas of new major versions. I've been thinking about stable/development version numbering recently (and also in the past) and I think it's better to call such versions as 1.1-alpha5, 1.1-beta3, 2.0-rc2.

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-22 Thread Thomas Keller
Am 22.11.2010 07:36, schrieb Martin Dvorak: Thomas Keller wrote: We'll have regular minor releases just like before after 1.0 - we only want to assert to support 1.0 with patch releases a little longer than the usual minor releases. I remember we talked about some rules on the list, but never

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-22 Thread Timothy Brownawell
On 11/22/2010 07:23 AM, Thomas Keller wrote: We already append a suffix dev to development snapshots (i.e. 1.0dev) which get created on build farms like openSUSE's build service. Thomas Moschny said that this is suboptimal because of rpm's version comparison algorithms which would consider

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 08:17:38AM -0600, Timothy Brownawell wrote: So I think basically rpm requires X.Y.Z even/odd scheme in order to distinguish release/dev. Which is annoying. The colon classification system had a scheme where some symbols would collate before end-od-string. They used

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:18:47AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 08:17:38AM -0600, Timothy Brownawell wrote: So I think basically rpm requires X.Y.Z even/odd scheme in order to distinguish release/dev. Which is annoying. The colon classification system had a scheme

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-22 Thread Timothy Brownawell
On 11/22/2010 09:43 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: This if we add ~dev7 to version number 1.1, we'll get version 1.1~dev7, which will sort before version 1.1 This sounds like the numbering system we're looking for. Of course, this isn't the *entire* comparison alrorithm. There's also an epoch and a

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 05:28:23PM -0600, Timothy Brownawell wrote: On 11/22/2010 09:43 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: This if we add ~dev7 to version number 1.1, we'll get version 1.1~dev7, which will sort before version 1.1 This sounds like the numbering system we're looking for. Of course, this

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:46:49PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 05:28:23PM -0600, Timothy Brownawell wrote: On 11/22/2010 09:43 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: This if we add ~dev7 to version number 1.1, we'll get version 1.1~dev7, which will sort before version 1.1 This

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-22 Thread Timothy Brownawell
On 11/22/2010 10:48 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:46:49PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 05:28:23PM -0600, Timothy Brownawell wrote: On 11/22/2010 09:43 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: This if we add ~dev7 to version number 1.1, we'll get version 1.1~dev7,

Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-21 Thread Thomas Keller
Am 21.11.10 19:14, schrieb Stephen Leake: remember we communicated that 1.0 will be 0.99 + bug fixes, i.e. no new features or breakage. If this is not possible, please do it in a separate branch and we'll merge that for 1.1. I think 'mtn au conflicts store' is more of a polishing than a new

Re: Release rules Was: Re: [Monotone-devel] conflicts store vs show_conflicts

2010-11-21 Thread Martin Dvorak
Thomas Keller wrote: We'll have regular minor releases just like before after 1.0 - we only want to assert to support 1.0 with patch releases a little longer than the usual minor releases. I remember we talked about some rules on the list, but never actually jotted them down. I did that now on