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From: Franc
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Dave and Rick Perry
" Who knows...maybe Rick Perry collects movie posters
" Who knows...maybe Rick Perry collects movie posters. "
I think Rick Perry only collects lobby cards and posters from the Ten
Commandments. (I thought a little comedy was needed here.)
FRANC
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From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf
Hey, Dave,
You'd make a great politician. Some of your statements mangle the truth
with the finesse of Rick Perry. Seeing as you probably have an original
Blade Runner one sheet listed at $2000. I guess most of your inventory is out
of bounds. I'm sure Todd's process won't damage your p
I already let you give ME a rectal exam last time I was in vegas.
oh waitthat wasn't me.never mind.
David Lieberman
_CineMasterpieces.com_ (http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/) | 15721 N.
Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az 85260
Vintage Original Movie Posters | 602 309
can we give your posters a rectal examination to prove citizenship in
the poster community??
: - P
At 04:49 PM 8/20/2011, David Lieberman wrote:
wowso much anger. Get a grip there ricky boy!
yes, you wind up in my spam folder. All your email does since I
blocked you years ago. I didn't
wowso much anger. Get a grip there ricky boy!
yes, you wind up in my spam folder. All your email does since I blocked you
years ago. I didn't like the incessant daily ads for your garbage zero
value ebay listings.
not one dealer or collector who has ever bought one of the rolled posters
I say Craig should send you one and let you test it and you can
compare your results to your other results
At 03:45 PM 8/20/2011, Todd Spoor wrote:
Craig, we are NOT saying there aren't real rolled 1 sheets of the
Thing or any other poster out there, we are saying someone is using
a very high
Todd:
I guess it was the phrase "compared side by side to the real deal
and was perfect EXCEPT that it was rolled" that made me jump to
the conclusion that you were saying real ones aren't rolled.
Craig.
At 03:45 PM 8/20/2011, Todd Spoor wrote:
Craig, we are NOT saying there aren't real rolled
Craig, we are NOT saying there aren't real rolled 1 sheets of the Thing or any
other poster out there, we are saying someone is using a very high level
printing technology to make these knock offs using "newer" paper which possess
a high level of alkaline compared to earlier paper.
Sent from my
I have tryed to explain years craig as I was a poster hanger in
Detroit..
when I would get posters they would ship me from various printres
like Gore and Gotham and others. theses where direct from the
priniters in the triangle boxes that held 300 in a box and were
rolled. these were in 80s.
since
I see no reason why it shouldn't. I would be willing to test it out if have
some you want to send us.
Thanks
Todd
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On Aug 20, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
> Todd, does your method work equally well on stills? There are tons of
> "re-strikes" that constantly fool
Actually Dale, the testing is NOT saying the printing was done in the late
1980's for this 1982 release of the "Thing" it is saying the paper used was
manufactured from the late 1980's on when the whole U.S paper mill
manufacturing switched to this newer technology. It could have been printed
a
At 01:15 PM 8/20/2011, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art wrote:
eeing the fake rolled 1 sheet for the Kurt Russell the THING which
was compared side by side to the real deal and was perfect EXCEPT
that it was rolled, and when we forensically tested it, PROVED it
was produced in the late 1980'
Is there detail on this that can be read up on? This one concerns me.
Different printers, different storage location would all test differently in
regards to PH levels I would think. Not all runs were done at the same
locations correct? What if one location had their paper on hand for 10 years
an
Yes you misunderstood, we LOOKED at the poster at Cinevent, but took it with us
because we had to lift a sample from the poster to send into the lab.
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On Aug 20, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art
wrote:
> But Todd
>
> the guy who showed you the Thing poster at Cine
But Todd
the guy who showed you the Thing poster at Cinevent said you did the
testing right there, unless I misunderstood him
At 02:00 PM 8/20/2011, Todd Spoor wrote:
Although I did sleep at a holiday in last night, I am NOT forensic
scientist. The Forensic company we are using does crimina
Although I did sleep at a holiday in last night, I am NOT forensic scientist.
The Forensic company we are using does criminal cases throughout the US and
they are quite certain of their findings. If you look at the presentation they
state the Paper Mills in the US switched over to a "Alkaline we
Todd, does your method work equally well on stills? There are tons of
"re-strikes" that constantly fool "the experts".
Bruce
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Todd Spoor wrote:
> Rich, the exact same test that was done one "The Thing" can be viewed on
> our website on the right side of the scree
"Cinevent Presentation." it shows quite conclusively the different
paper used and especially the different alkaline/ PH in the paper
proving it was made in different time periods.
Todd
couldn't the variances also be due to being stored in different locales?
for instance, what is the alkaline
Rich, the exact same test that was done one "The Thing" can be viewed on our
website on the right side of the screen under, "Cinevent Presentation." it
shows quite conclusively the different paper used and especially the different
alkaline/ PH in the paper proving it was made in different time p
eeing the fake rolled 1 sheet for the Kurt Russell the THING which
was compared side by side to the real deal and was perfect EXCEPT
that it was rolled, and when we forensically tested it, PROVED it
was produced in the late 1980's, would make me question any rolled
one sheet. This fake was TH
Dave, Rick
I think most everyone knows there are rolled one sheets out there, but I think
the point the Rick is making is besides all of the rolled one sheets you have
that aren't "worth much," you also have/ had a high number of rolled one sheet
posters that are VERY valuable and that many ot
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are you getting my emails?
At 11:38 AM 8/20/2011, rixpost...@aol.com wrote:
Hi, Tom.
Hey, I once came upon about 20 rolled silent one sheets from a film
called "Lost In A Big City". I have no doubt that there are rolled
one sheets out there...perhaps many of them. Maybe there are a
Hi, Tom.
Hey, I once came upon about 20 rolled silent one sheets from a film called
"Lost In A Big City". I have no doubt that there are rolled one sheets out
there...perhaps many of them. Maybe there are a lot of yellow Vertigo one
sheets out there as well (but I don't think so, unless s
I agree there were many ROLLED posters I had 1920a rolled posters
.. it seemed that the norm was folded esp national screen.. however
printers and studios did seem to send out some rolled.
so its possible to get certain titles rolled IMHO
>
>
> Original Message
>From: sa...@comic-art.com
Rick
I have a number of rolled never folded posters, including some from
1936, 1940 & on to 1960s in my current auction
they are all definitely authentic theatrical posters
It is true that the enormous majority of posters prior to the rolled
era are folded, but there are posters that were nev
Now *THIS *is "beating a dead horse"!
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:17 PM, David Lieberman wrote:
> **
> again, fished out of my spam folder.
>
> because there has never been a reason to send one to Todd. And he has only
> been authenticating for what? less than a year now? I've had them for over 5
Just a commentyou are the only person (on MoPo or otherwise) who has
claimed that my emails have ended up in their Spam Folder...the only one.
That leads me to assume this absurd claim is as phoney as your "original"
rolled posters from the 60's. Be sure to make sure some of these are
again, fished out of my spam folder.
because there has never been a reason to send one to Todd. And he has only
been authenticating for what? less than a year now? I've had them for over
5 years.
No one has ever doubted themonly youand again you have
never even touched one
Hi Bruce,
Just to echo Helmut's post.
Magnum wouldn't be bothering with stockshots of posters, they're a
leading photo agency mainly known for photojournalism.
Founding members included Cartier Bresson, Robert Capa.
Magnum photographer Elliot Landy covered the festival.
Same old...I'd have
Hi, again, Dave,
Just for the record, I've sent about 200 posters to Todd Spoor for
grading. You can ask him and he'll verify this is true. If you're willing to
send me one at no cost, why not Todd as well? Be sure to make it one of
those nifty ones from the 60's...
Hi, Dave,
Was wondering...have you sent even one of these somewhat questionable
one sheets to Todd Spoor for checking its (their) true verifiable
authenticity..even one? If you haven't, why haven't you? If the results came
back
that the alleged one sheets were authentic, I'd offer you
Rick
I fished your email out of my spam folder.
Still jealous after all these years? wow.
Please get your facts straight.
We have never claimed to have a rolled cool hand luke one sheet. There
wasn't one of those in the "find".
No other dealer has ever accused us of selling fake rolled
Hi, Bruce,
I can't understand how any dealer who is selling pre-say, 1975 one
sheets that are rolled and thus deemed suspect by many other dealers and
collectors wouldn't gladly and willingly accept Todd Spoor's offer to prove
once
and for all that they are indeed genuine original one s
Dave
Please send yours to Todd Spoor. I will pay shipping both ways. The one I
have is linenbacked.
If he says it is from the 1970s, you will know for sure.
I am not sure who "Anyone who expresses a firm opinion without actually
handling one in person is being ridiculous." is aimed at, but I DID
this is almost becoming dead horse territory..
Bruce "feels the paper stock is not consistent with a 1970 poster, but is
more likely 1990s."
I (and several others I might add) wholeheartedly and respectfully
disagree. I have several posters from that time period that are printed on the
Todd, the one I have is linenbacked, but maybe Mel Hutson would be so kind
as to send his. I will ask him, and offer to pay the shipping both ways.
But before I contact Mel, I want to make a couple of inquiries to see if I
can find the people who made this. But if I find no answers, I will contact
Bruce,
Great info, if you send me the poster in question, I can have the paper
Forensically tested to see when the paper was made, if you suspect 1990's, we
will no for sure with the testing.
Regards
Todd Spoor
MPgrading.com
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On Aug 20, 2011, at 6:27 AM, Bruce Hershenson wro
Great additional info, Helmut! I also posted this on allposterforum and Mel
there replied asking about the original style B which looks like the new
suspect poster.
I replied as follows:
"Mel, I am thinking the style B original was the "credits style" and the the
style C original was the "teaser
>
> What is Magnum Photos Inc? They are a photo leasing outfit in New York City.
> Since this poster has NO photo on it, only art, I think the only reasonable
> assumption is that what they leased was a photo of the entire poster.
>
Hi Bruce,
I have no real idea what the true story behind the
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