Claude
one part of your statement isn't entirely correct: there were over
20000 collectors and it was all due to ebay
there were 20,000 buyers. Not nearly all of them were collectors nor
are they today
the one thing that ebay does do is to bring casual buyers to the mix.
the guy who buys a poster for "Convoy" because he's a trucker, or his
brother is
the person looking for a gift for his wife for her favorite film or
the dentist looking for a poster to Marathon Man or Novacaine
these people are not collectors
I think the more favorable measure is "How many bidders does Bruce
have at emovieposter.com?" or "how many bidders does Heritage have
for posters?" (I think Bruce has about 5000 bidders. Does that show
how many "collectors" there are better than fleaBay??
MoviePosterBid has just short of 1400 members (but we're growing)
Rich
At 01:51 PM 1/14/2009, Claude Litton wrote:
Kirby
that is true except for one thing. This hobby had around 4-5000
collectors before ebay. I judge this by the subscribers to MCW at
the time. Before Bruce left ebay he had over 20000 feedbacks and
ebay only allowed one per buyer to count. They changed this later
but that means there were over 20000 collectors and it was all due to ebay.
Claude
In a message dated 1/14/2009 4:45:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ki...@movieart.net writes:
Hello, Claude,
I submit this. You don't understand our feelings because you are a
buyer and not a seller. There is a fundamental inequity between
the way that ebay treats its buyers and sellers. It's not about
their profits, it's not about their greed. It wasn't broke and they fixed it
again and again, squeezing the sellers whenever they could. Just
like every collectible hobby, movie posters would be nowhere were it not
for the network of dealers. DEALERS (and auction houses) still
handle most of the great stuff.
Respectfully,
Kirby
On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Claude Litton wrote:
I fully agree. Why don't you all stop complaining about a venue
that increased our hobby tremendously. It is still my number one
place to find posters I want.
Ebay became a public company and during the growth years, the greed
went to their heads, no different from anyone else. that is why
the economy is what it is today. All public companies were
interested in was increasing over the prior year to increase top
management's bonus payments and stock options. The growth need
forced changes and unfortunately their changes were not well thought out.
CJL
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I'm with Colin.
all some of you ever do is bitch and moan about ebay......or feel
the need to bash it...... I've complained in the past too......but
some of you do it incessantly.
move on already.
luv ya rich, bruce, channing.....but sheesh!!! stop the whining.....
that said.....they'll probably ban no reserve auctions tomorrow and
I'll be back here whining myself!
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At 02:06 PM 1/14/2009, McDaniel Kirby wrote:
Claude,
I have no quarrel with any of that. But I stand by my
statement. They take us sellers for granted. I understand why
sellers are frustrated with them.
K.
On Jan 14, 2009, at 3:51 PM, <mailto:twoni...@aol.com>twoni...@aol.com wrote:
Kirby
that is true except for one thing. This hobby had around 4-5000
collectors before ebay. I judge this by the subscribers to MCW at
the time. Before Bruce left ebay he had over 20000 feedbacks and
ebay only allowed one per buyer to count. They changed this later
but that means there were over 20000 collectors and it was all due to ebay.
Claude
In a message dated 1/14/2009 4:45:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
<mailto:ki...@movieart.net>ki...@movieart.net writes:
Hello, Claude,
I submit this. You don't understand our feelings because you are a
buyer and not a seller. There is a fundamental inequity between
the way that ebay treats its buyers and sellers. It's not about
their profits, it's not about their greed. It wasn't broke and they fixed it
again and again, squeezing the sellers whenever they could. Just
like every collectible hobby, movie posters would be nowhere were it not
for the network of dealers. DEALERS (and auction houses) still
handle most of the great stuff.
Respectfully,
Kirby
On Jan 14, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Claude Litton wrote:
I fully agree. Why don't you all stop complaining about a venue
that increased our hobby tremendously. It is still my number one
place to find posters I want.
Ebay became a public company and during the growth years, the
greed went to their heads, no different from anyone else. that is
why the economy is what it is today. All public companies were
interested in was increasing over the prior year to increase top
management's bonus payments and stock options. The growth need
forced changes and unfortunately their changes were not well thought out.
CJL
In a message dated 1/14/2009 2:44:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
<mailto:dli...@aol.com>dli...@aol.com writes:
I'm with Colin.
all some of you ever do is bitch and moan about ebay......or feel
the need to bash it...... I've complained in the past too......but
some of you do it incessantly.
move on already.
luv ya rich, bruce, channing.....but sheesh!!! stop the whining.....
that said.....they'll probably ban no reserve auctions tomorrow
and I'll be back here whining myself!
David Lieberman
<http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/>CineMasterpieces.com | 15721 N.
Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az 85260
Vintage Original Movie Posters | 602 309 0500 | Office/Gallery
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