Re: [MOSAIC] Instructional Conversation Rating Scale

2006-12-21 Thread Teresa Terry
Instructional Conversations were part of a study that was concerned with providing best practices with students who were from the low socioeconomic, limited English student. As part of this study teachers and the researchers taped themselves and viewed them according to the IC scale. By using I

Re: [MOSAIC] when comprehension strategies become the reason for reading. . .

2006-12-21 Thread Ellin Keene
I have read with interest everyone's comments about strategies becoming too much the focus of children's reading and want to just throw in a quick thought or two. I, too, am concerned with the strategies assuming too prominent a role in children's understanding and that is the central idea in the

Re: [MOSAIC] when comprehension strategies become the reason forreading. . .

2006-12-21 Thread Kelly Hubacz
Ellin, We are honored. Thank you - Original Message - From: "Ellin Keene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv'" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] when comprehension strategies become the reason forreading. . .

Re: [MOSAIC] when comprehension strategies become the reason forreading. . .

2006-12-21 Thread Jones, Rex
Ellin, I agree about the importance of discussion--and it can't just be unthoughtful discussion. I think we need to reflect on and continually try to elevate the quality of the talk in our classrooms--and to expect our students to be able to rise to that level. I'm reading Around the Reading W

Re: [MOSAIC] Instructional Conversation Rating Scale

2006-12-21 Thread Joy
Teresa, I actually composed a reply earlier today, but my Internet service provider had it's fiber optic cable severed and we have had limited service. Thanks for the link, I've begun reading it, and the accompanying links suggested by the author in an effort to grab hold of what you are

Re: [MOSAIC] when comprehension strategies become the reason for reading. . .

2006-12-21 Thread soozq55164
Ellin, As a 4th grade teacher, I have found that my jump is to teach (as you said) how the strategies help you to understand what you've read. I think the teachers in the younger grades have done a good job in teaching what the strategies are but I don't think that they realize that good reade

Re: [MOSAIC] when comprehension strategies become the reason for reading. . .

2006-12-21 Thread cnjpalmer
This discussion now runs into the same ideas I have been mulling over about teaching strategies in a cluster...showing students how, for example, questioning and inferring can work together. We often infer answers to our most thoughtful questions! Ellin, am I right in drawing the conclusion

Re: [MOSAIC] Instructional Conversation Rating Scale

2006-12-21 Thread William Roberts
Let me give an example using QAR: I taught it, the kids understood it and were able to identify whether the questions were "in their heads" or "in the book".then we checked our answers. Me: "where did you get that answer? you marked it as 'in your head'... student: "here's the answer (poi

[MOSAIC] New problem....

2006-12-21 Thread William Roberts
Hope everyone is getting rest and relaxation this holiday season, but I've got a problem: I'm not getting any thinking from my 8th graders.at least not anything I want. I know I'm not expecting too much from them since other years have not been sosomere words can't describe them. Let

Re: [MOSAIC] New problem....

2006-12-21 Thread Carolyn Wilhelm
Hello, I'm new to all this and am just jumping in...and I hear you!...but, I would have the students make a rubric for grading the assignment, and have them self grade as well as evaluate them myself. Brainstorming what is a good/excellent student paper/response first and then giving the assignmen

Re: [MOSAIC] when comprehension strategies become the reasonforreading. . .

2006-12-21 Thread Mary Helen Chappetto
This 'conversation' is so interesting! We just finished our 2nd quarter and we completed 1on 1 reading tests on all students k-3. We are finding that comprehension is holding many of them backit is in the coversation about their thinking that really holds them back, as well as recalling i

Re: [MOSAIC] when comprehension strategies become the reasonforreading. . .

2006-12-21 Thread Lisa Szyska
Hello Mary Helen! What are the teachers already doing to help w/comprehension? Lisa 2/3 IL --- Mary Helen Chappetto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This 'conversation' is so interesting! We just > finished our 2nd quarter and > we completed 1on 1 reading tests on all students > k-3. We are findi

Re: [MOSAIC] New problem....

2006-12-21 Thread Joy
William and Carolyn, I like Carolyn's suggestion, but would like to take it one step further. Show them something you KNOW they will HATE. Hate is such a strong emotion, and very often kids can find lots of derisive things to say, especially at this age. It's not cool to have a favorite; if yo

Re: [MOSAIC] Ellin, when comprehension strategies become the reason for reading. . .

2006-12-21 Thread Teresa Terry
Ellin, Is there any part (chart/page) that you can release from your up and coming book/presentations that would further our thinking??? I don't think I can wait until 2007! As far as...to comprehend, I'm thinking that just like there are different levels of understanding vocabulary

Re: [MOSAIC] Instructional Conversation Rating Scale

2006-12-21 Thread Teresa Terry
Great quesitons!!! As I read your email I began wondering: 1. When does being metacognitive about strategies impede the actual comprehension/fluency of text? I know we want our students to monitor their comprehension and use strategies to gain meaning; but, do we want students to b