Re: [Moses-support] Can Traditional Moses (not Moses Server) also run in multi translation systems?

2012-05-26 Thread Jonathan Clark
Tom, I agree that things can be made to work well under the current setup. It's just not intuitive nor well-documented. By "hidden", I mean hidden in terms of any standard Unix monitoring tools. It is hidden both from both the virtual and resident memory tallies, which are where most Unix admins

Re: [Moses-support] Can Traditional Moses (not Moses Server) also run in multi translation systems?

2012-05-26 Thread Tom Hoar
I'm not exactly sure how this can be considered a "hidden memory requirement". By default, train-table-perl creates a moses.ini configuration that loads these resources into RAM. A user must edit the configuration to enable mem-mapped language model or binarized tables, and these on-disk features

Re: [Moses-support] new PhraseExtractor -- segmentation faul; the old one run smooth

2012-05-26 Thread Tomas Hudik
Hi There, Finally I got it. Basically, there is no bug :) The problem was the older (svn) moses version didn't require absolute path for train-model.perl for parameter "-corpus". When I put the absolute path to the new moses version - the path was correctly hand out to extract-parallel and the

Re: [Moses-support] Can Traditional Moses (not Moses Server) also run in multi translation systems?

2012-05-26 Thread Jonathan Clark
Personally, I would could "The sees the process as a small-memory process and won't be tempted to kill it when it's running out of memory" as a disadvantage rather than an advantage. If the OOM killer is trying to stabilize the system, this will potentially prevent it from doing so. The other disa

Re: [Moses-support] new PhraseExtractor -- segmentation faul; the old one run smooth

2012-05-26 Thread Tomas Hudik
Hi guys, Phil - thanks. Hieu - you are correct (dir is created). The problem is in command ln in extract_parallel (lines: 70 and 2 more below 70). $cmd = "ln -s $target $TMPDIR/target.$numStr"; ln creates symbolic link (no error message is generated), however, the link is invalid. It is due t

Re: [Moses-support] Sparse moses

2012-05-26 Thread Tetsuo Kiso
Hi Barry, > I've updated the sparse features branch of Moses (miramerge), merging all the > recent changes from trunk. It passes all the unit tests, and all the > regression tests (apart from small number of rounding errors) but I have't > run > any other tests on this branch. I'm just wonder

Re: [Moses-support] Can Traditional Moses (not Moses Server) also run in multi translation systems?

2012-05-26 Thread Hieu Hoang
You'll also get thrashing with memory-mapped files if you don't have enough memory. Advantage of the file API: 1. can access 2+GB files even running a 32 bit OS 2. OS portable 3. The sees the process as a small-memory process and won't be tempted to kill it when it's running out of m

Re: [Moses-support] new PhraseExtractor -- segmentation faul; the old one run smooth

2012-05-26 Thread Hieu Hoang
hi tomas 1. thanks. Phil fixed it https://github.com/moses-smt/mosesdecoder/commit/82580280bc0b30607b00a55ffe0f22d5665269a3 2. The temp directory is created in extract-parallel.perl line 34 Do you get an error when running the extract or scoring? On 26/05/2012 12:33, Tomas Hudik wro

Re: [Moses-support] new PhraseExtractor -- segmentation faul; the old one run smooth

2012-05-26 Thread Tomas Hudik
Hi Hieu, Thanks for your reply. Yep - I downloaded latest git version (de8a2e7667fe2bde9df0ef5a32b3b85b6469eb0f) and found out following problems: 1. During compilation; gcc version 4.6.3. produces error in: gcc.compile.c++ scripts/training/phrase-extract/pcfg-common/bin/gcc-4.6.3/r