I have looked at the Ogg Vorbis encoder (B2) and I have a couple of points to make
:
1] I think it is appalling that there is such little interest in this - it is a
viable alternative to MP3 - and
doesn't have the patent restrictions that our friends at Franhoffer put on it.
Sure, LAME is fre
> Sorry to write to this board, but it was my last resort to reach the authors
> of the project... I wrote an email regarding this bug, and it's been already
> one or two weeks, no response. So as i know Monty and the other developers
> read this, i thought i'd share this with you...
Apologies
Sorry to write to this board, but it was my last resort to reach the authors
of the project... I wrote an email regarding this bug, and it's been already
one or two weeks, no response. So as i know Monty and the other developers
read this, i thought i'd share this with you...
I don't know if i
> > [curious thing is I never seem to offend any ladies on this list]
> A good point. Is there any lady on this list. I think that a lot of people
> subscribed to this list. Statistically, it would be strange that only men
> subscribed.
Good Point .. I heard about statistic that says : "Man have
Maybe asshole was a little too harsh, but I feel bad for some of the people
he offended. That's all that comment was.
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> M> Anyway, he apologized, I apologize, we were on the bad crack today. We
can
> M> finish this up over some beer or good single malt.
>
> I feel this 'urge' to let everyone on this list know that I think beer
> is a poor man's drink. ;))
Be carefull Roel, free beer doesn't mean free speech...
(
> Yes, Roel was abit rash, but more than just a little justified imho. Don't
> deny that quite a few of you were overpraising Vorbis long before it
actually
> was much to praise .. sure, it's a format with much potential, but it
hasn't
> reached much of that potential yet, and stating that it's an
M> Anyway, he apologized, I apologize, we were on the bad crack today. We can
M> finish this up over some beer or good single malt.
I feel this 'urge' to let everyone on this list know that I think beer
is a poor man's drink. ;))
Roel - the best barfight in the northern hemisphere
[curious thi
> BTW, please explain: am I allowed to report an OGG VORBIS bug just if
> and when you ask me?
Please remember we didn't flame him for his critique on vorbis, we
flamed him for his presentation :) I think this might have got blown
out of proportion a bit due to lanugage issues.
I'm glad Roel ha
> I would have to agree with Joshua here. not only that, but I
> think its hilarious how Roel immediatly had a drastic change of heart when
> he heard Monty was on board. Now, Monty is the man, but that doesn't mean
> everything he touches is gold :-P Roel needs to think about what
Hello all, hello in particular guys from Ogg Vorbis,
PLEASE forgive Roel! I don't know why you flame him in such an
aggressive way. His mail did not seem too aggressive to me! In the end
there were some good hints in his message, but please forgive him now!
He did more than apologizing, offering
Reading Roel's initial statement, and all the replies, I'd like to comment
a little on this matter myself...
Yes, Roel was abit rash, but more than just a little justified imho. Don't
deny that quite a few of you were overpraising Vorbis long before it actually
was much to praise .. sure, it's a
I would have to agree with Joshua here. not only that, but I
think its hilarious how Roel immediatly had a drastic change of heart when
he heard Monty was on board. Now, Monty is the man, but that doesn't mean
everything he touches is gold :-P Roel needs to think about what a silly
Hello Joshua,
Thursday, September 14, 2000, 10:53:19 PM, you wrote:
JB> No one asked your opinion about Ogg Vorbis, so why tell everyone
JB> on an *mp3* encoder mailing list your feelings?
justified comment. someone did ask my opinion, and I knew the people I
needed to reach are all on this lis
Hello Jack,
JM> Your other comments aside, this is just plain FUD.
sorry, I don't understand "FUD". Nor "FWIW".
JM> We have top notch lawyers on this. We have done lots of patent
JM> research. We have paid lawyers to do lots of patent research.
If you believe OV is a match for the mainstream
You are inviting too much. I'd love to flame you, which I may do some day (maybe
right now). I cringe every time I see Roel VdB coming into my inbox. I know
it's going to be something that I find less than interesting. No one asked your
opinion about Ogg Vorbis, so why tell everyone on an *mp3* en
Hello Monty,
(first, I did not know you were the developer, nor did I know you did
almost all the work on this)
Thursday, September 14, 2000, 9:05:13 PM, you wrote:
>> The best thing so far about Ogg Vorbis has been the marketing.
M> That's at best inflammatory, Roel. Why not just start off y
Hello xxx,
Thursday, September 14, 2000, 8:54:20 PM, you wrote:
xx> Your comments are outright cruel. They edge on being completely
xx> non-constructive.
Yes, the comments are very direct. It's just: I keep getting mails
from people telling me that OV b2 is out, and that many bugs are
fixed, a
> [my opinion]
> Believing OV, once mainstream, will not be slapped and crippled by lawsuits from
> conventional music and distribution industry because it uses no
> obvious patented material is plain out naive. There goes the biggest
> advantage of this format.
> [/my opinion]
Your other commen
> The best thing so far about Ogg Vorbis has been the marketing.
That's at best inflammatory, Roel. Why not just start off your next mail with
a few comments about my mother? :-P
> I tested one file with the new b2, and even with -m6, the best possible
> Vorbis setting, resulting in a 350kbit/s
The best thing so far about Ogg Vorbis has been the marketing.
I tested one file with the new b2, and even with -m6, the best possible
Vorbis setting, resulting in a 350kbit/s file it sounds poor.
There are obvious low-frequency bass distortions, which mp3 at
256kbit/s bitrate doesn't show.
Sin
>
> I read the "usage" file in the 3.86 zip distribution, but all it says is
>
> --ogg
> Encode using the Ogg Vobis codec (using libvorbis) instead of LAME's internal mp3
> codec.
>
> What options are available for use with ogg encoding engine? Is there any doco on
> this?
>
> Owen.
>
I ju
I read the "usage" file in the 3.86 zip distribution, but all it says is
--ogg
Encode using the Ogg Vobis codec (using libvorbis) instead of LAME's internal mp3
codec.
What options are available for use with ogg encoding engine? Is there any doco on
this?
Owen.
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Any idea how I get LAME to compile with Vorbis support?
David
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