RE: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread Scott Manley
It's definately not frmalised - think about the next step up - Mega which is prefixed by a capital M, while the lower case m represents the prefix 'mili' Scott Manley (aka Szyzyg) /-- _@/ Mail -\ ___ _ _ __ __ _ | Armagh Obse

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread Meister Roger
>> You can take the "p" as 1/x. Here x is s, so >> kbps and kbit/s means the same. Yes, and could also be written : kbs (exponent: minus one) >From rules used in biochemistry. (same rules?) But in a book or Word, not in a mail Roger - -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3enc

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread Christian Schepke
About kbps kbit/s and more : ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/pub/doc/ISO/information-units Perhaps we can now end this discussion and accept kbps AND kbit/s as understandable units for '10^3bit per second' and go on to other more LAME-related questions ... A+ Christian -- MP3 ENCODER mai

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread Christian Schepke
> You can take the "p" as 1/x. Here x is s, so - kbps and kbit/s means the same. > That's the idea that I get. Any comments? May we consider that 'p' stands for 'per' ? So kbps would mean : Kilo [10^3] * bit per second So it would be exactly the same as kbit/s Kilo [10^3] bit per second. Sounds

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread David Balazic
Zia Mazhar wrote: > > Taupter wrote: > > > > > The term Kbps to represent data transfer speed in bits is absolutely > > wrong, as bit is "bit", and Kbps is K (1000 or 1024) * byte * p (?) * s > > (second). The right way could be Kbit/s. The term Kbps is widely used, > > but it not a "canonical"

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread Zia Mazhar
Taupter wrote: > > The term Kbps to represent data transfer speed in bits is absolutely > wrong, as bit is "bit", and Kbps is K (1000 or 1024) * byte * p (?) * s > (second). The right way could be Kbit/s. The term Kbps is widely used, > but it not a "canonical" representation. > Are you _sure_ t

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread Mathew Hendry
> From: Taupter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Mathew Hendry wrote: > > > > > From: "Taupter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > [...] the right case for multipliers is uppercase (K, M), [...] > > > > ITYM all multipliers except k - kHz, km, etc. > > No. Surely KHz, Km, et cetera el al. Nope, ho

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread David Balazic
Taupter wrote: > > Mathew Hendry wrote: > > > > > From: "Taupter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > [...] the right case for multipliers is uppercase (K, M), [...] > > > > ITYM all multipliers except k - kHz, km, etc. > > No. Surely KHz, Km, et cetera el al. You're joking, right ? kilo is 'k' ,

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread Taupter
Mathew Hendry wrote: > > > From: "Taupter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > [...] the right case for multipliers is uppercase (K, M), [...] > > ITYM all multipliers except k - kHz, km, etc. No. Surely KHz, Km, et cetera el al. Taupter -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread Mathew Hendry
> From: "Taupter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [...] the right case for multipliers is uppercase (K, M), [...] ITYM all multipliers except k - kHz, km, etc. -- Mat. -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-19 Thread Taupter
> It seems to be quite common to use the prefix "K" to refer to multiples of > 1024, and "k" for mutliples of 1000, but I don't know if this is formalised > anywhere. Similarly "B" for bytes and "b" for bits... 64KB of memory vs. > 64kbps MP3. K is used for both multiples of 1000 and 1024. 1024 i

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-18 Thread David Balazic
Mathew Hendry wrote: > > > From: Jack Moffitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > networks are measured with k = 1000. > > storage is measured with k = 1024. > > > > this is how it has traditionally been. > > It seems to be quite common to use the prefix "K" to refer to multiples of > 1024, and "

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-18 Thread Mathew Hendry
> From: Jack Moffitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > networks are measured with k = 1000. > storage is measured with k = 1024. > > this is how it has traditionally been. It seems to be quite common to use the prefix "K" to refer to multiples of 1024, and "k" for mutliples of 1000, but I don't kn

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-18 Thread Jack Moffitt
> In mp3 audio it's 1000 bits per second, in Microsoft's media formats it's 1024 > bits per second mark told me it was so they could say they could say they took the same amount of space (128kbps) even though they squeezed more data in there. the cheaters. jack. -- MP3 ENCODER mailing lis

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-18 Thread Jack Moffitt
networks are measured with k = 1000. storage is measured with k = 1024. this is how it has traditionally been. jack. On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Shawn Riley wrote: > Is 1 kilobit per second supposed to be 1024 bits per second, or 1000 bits per second? > > Shawn > -- > MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-17 Thread Greg Maxwell
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Scott Manley wrote: > > Is 1 kilobit per second supposed to be 1024 bits per second, or 1000 bits per >second? > > In mp3 audio it's 1000 bits per second, in Microsoft's media formats it's 1024 > bits per second Most communications stuff uses standard SI prefixes. --

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] definition of "kbps"

2000-04-17 Thread Scott Manley
> Is 1 kilobit per second supposed to be 1024 bits per second, or 1000 bits per second? In mp3 audio it's 1000 bits per second, in Microsoft's media formats it's 1024 bits per second Scott Manley (aka Szyzyg) /-- _@/ Mail -\ ___ _ _ __ __