RE: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-12 Thread Ross Levis
That's great! I've been waiting for these settings. Can someone please compile a Win32 version. Maybe a new beta version should be released? Ross. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Hegemann > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-13 Thread Robert Hegemann
Ross wrote: > That's great! I've been waiting for these settings. Can someone please > compile a Win32 version. Maybe a new beta version should be released? > > Ross. Hi Ross, I have no Windows, so I can't help you with a Win32 version. But I want to start a collection, that could become som

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-13 Thread Mark Taylor
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RE: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-13 Thread Ross Levis
Hi Robert. Hopefully someone else can help with the Win32 compile - please :) I think Marks suggestion of using a width option may be less confusing and easier to use. As far as radio is concerned, the 2 main presets would be something like this: 1. Music/commercials: FM50 - 15000 hz

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-13 Thread Robert Hegemann
Mark wrote: > I would suggest changing to a more sox like settings, where you specify > the lowpass frequency, and then a width or rolloff parameter. > lowpass_l and lowpass_h seems a little confusing. What about: > > --lowpass > --lowpass_width > > And then there could be a default width of

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-13 Thread Ross Levis
Robert, Presets: Is the -b setting removed when -v is selected? Should! If you are interested, I've just analysed some voice-only files here and found most energy is between 100hz and 12000hz. Cheers, Ross. Robert Hegemann wrote: > Thank you Ross for the info about radio frequencies. > Coding

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-13 Thread DeRobertis
At 5:28 PM +0100 on 12/13/99, Robert Hegemann wrote: > CD 2 - 2 hz, stereo: > --lowpass_h 2 > --resample 44.1 > -m s -b 192 I thaught a CD could have up to 22KHz? -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-14 Thread Ross Levis
John Hayward-Warburton wrote: > It is true that some FM stations (in the UK at least) put > filters in below > 30Hz to allow in-band switching tones to be used between studios. Not that we use a filter here but I am aware that a lot of stations in the USA and elsewhere use a highpass filter whic

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-14 Thread John Hayward-Warburton
Ross Levis wrote: > What does the -X parameter do exactly? Only from looking at the code (and not understanding more than half of it...): It's all in quantize.c (look for references to `experimentalX'). It affects the output of function quant_compare(). John [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODE

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-14 Thread Robert Hegemann
> What does the -X parameter do exactly? When LAME searches for a "good" quantization, it has to compare the actual one with the best one found so far. The function quant_compare says which one is better, the best so far or the actual. Now the -X parameter selects between different approaches t

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options

1999-12-14 Thread Greg Maxwell
On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Robert Hegemann wrote: > -X4 this is a bit complicated, I think Greg Maxwell should > explain this ;) -X4 resulted from testing, overthinking and sleep deperivation. :) It's better if: The worst subband is less or equal to the masking while the previous best's

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-14 Thread John Hayward-Warburton
Robert Hegemann wrote: > Thank you Ross for the info about radio frequencies. > Coding FM quality with sharp cutoff would look like: > > lame --highpass 0.05 --highpass-width 0 >...etc May I make a case for --highpass 0.016 ? FM Radio usually goes down a bit lower than 50Hz. The lowest note

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-15 Thread Mark Taylor
> > Robert Hegemann wrote: > > > Thank you Ross for the info about radio frequencies. > > Coding FM quality with sharp cutoff would look like: > > > > lame --highpass 0.05 --highpass-width 0 > >...etc > > May I make a case for --highpass 0.016 ? FM Radio usually goes down a bit > lower than

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-15 Thread Monty
> a frequency resolution of only 22050/576 = 38Hz. So the accuracy of the first > few coefficients is questionable, and a highpass filter at 50Hz would > only effect the first 2 MDCT coefficients. I dont know how big a problem > this is, but a true 50Hz filter would need to be done before > ca

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-16 Thread Mark Taylor
> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 23:20:03 -0800 > From: Monty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > a frequency resolution of only 22050/576 = 38Hz. So the accuracy of the first > > few coefficients is questionable, and a highpass filter at 50Hz would > > only effect the first 2 MDCT coefficients. I dont know how

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-16 Thread Monty
> > No practical filter, digital included, will have a cutoff that sharp. It > > *could*, but that causes all sorts of other problems (like serious ringing > > throughout the spectrum). > > Are there any rules of thumb for an appropriate frequency range that > the filter should act on? Depends

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-16 Thread DAVID BALAZIC
From: Mark Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Just a note on the highpass filter: at 44.1khz sampling rate, >we only have 576 MDCT coefficients on which the filter acts and thus >a frequency resolution of only 22050/576 = 38Hz. So the accuracy of the first >few coefficients is questionable, and a hig

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-16 Thread Robert Hegemann
David Balazic wrote: > From: Mark Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Just a note on the highpass filter: at 44.1khz sampling rate, > >we only have 576 MDCT coefficients on which the filter acts and thus > >a frequency resolution of only 22050/576 = 38Hz. So the accuracy of the first > >few coeffi

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-17 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> What is the purpose of this high-pass filtering ? > You said that it would affect only 2 MDCT coeficients, that is > less than a percent of them all, so what gain do you/we expect from it ? In the tuning of the 44.1kHz voice option (I know that this option should be updated now for other bitrat

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-17 Thread John T. Larkin
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 08:06:26PM +0100, Gabriel Bouvigne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > ... > It's right that it's not a lot, but I think it's important. As an > example, a standard 10 or 15Hz high pass filter would be nice, as no > one is able to ear such frequencies, so why encoding them? A 10kH

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-19 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
> > It's right that it's not a lot, but I think it's important. As an > > example, a standard 10 or 15Hz high pass filter would be nice, as no > > one is able to ear such frequencies, so why encoding them? > > A 10kHz filter, IMHO, would be a bad idea. Even in poor listening > conditions with les

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] filter options (and several questions)

1999-12-20 Thread John T. Larkin
On Sat, Dec 18, 1999 at 02:19:29PM +0100, Gabriel Bouvigne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > > > It's right that it's not a lot, but I think it's important. As an > > > example, a standard 10 or 15Hz high pass filter would be nice, as no > > > one is able to ear such frequencies, so why encoding them? >