Re: [Mpls] Re: Samuels vs. Price: discuss

2002-12-13 Thread Andy Driscoll
My, Dyna, you do spend a good deal of time going after Greens. Most Greens are either disaffected DFLers or new to the process, but a good deal more of the former than the latter. So, what does it matter under whose banner anyone ran last time? It's what and whom they're representing now that matt

Re: [Mpls] Re: Samuels vs. Price: discuss

2002-12-13 Thread dyna
Dyna, I'm not sure why you include Shane Price in your look at DFL endorsedment and candidates. He may have once been DFL, but he is now a Green and, from what I've seen, has the support of many Greens and Green leaners. Fact: Shane was active in Paul Wellstone's campaign this year. Paul Wells

Re: [Mpls] Re: Samuels vs. Price: discuss

2002-12-13 Thread Eric Oines
I would like to address Dyna's misperception below. The Green Party endorsement of Shane Price was put on the agenda of a previously scheduled 5th District GP Meeting. Because it was assumed that the entire 5th district would be doing the endorsement (as was reported in the press release), the

Re: [Mpls] Re: Samuels vs. Price: discuss

2002-12-13 Thread David Shove
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, dyna wrote: . Most anyone on this list > would have been proud to work with any of the Humphreys, Sabos, or Moes. Proof that I'm not most anyone on this list. Skip or Buck Humphrey? Roger Moe? I'd sooner vote for a box of rocks or a yellow dog. -David Shove Roseville ___

Re: [Mpls] Ventura Village - Citizen Participation

2002-12-13 Thread Jim MCGUIRE
I apologize. I read the statement literally, but perhaps the "own property" requirement only refers to businesses. Jim McGuire Como Original Message Follows From: Constance Nompelis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jim MCGUIRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Ventu

Re: [Mpls] Ventura Village - Citizen Participation

2002-12-13 Thread Constance Nompelis
--- Jim MCGUIRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The statement that it's "not out of line" to require > that people own > property in the neighborhood in order to vote really > bothers me. It's > clearly out of line to disenfranchise residents of > the neighborhood simply > because they're renters

Re: [Mpls] mppoa -- again!

2002-12-13 Thread Andy Driscoll
Time for legislation, Senator? A well-placed call to the Attorney General's office? Let's use the muscle the voters gave us, shall we? Andy Driscoll Saint Paul I (cannot) submit the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men (and women) whatever in religion, in philosop

[Mpls] Ventura Body Slams;Small Business;NRP

2002-12-13 Thread Jim Mork
Ever since I started reading this list, I had this question bugging me: "What the HECK is 'Ventura Village'?" I've lived here since 1966 and NEVER heard of any part of Minneapolis called that. In fact, no part of Minneapolis WOULD call itself anything so corny. Had to be some joke. Well, now I

[Mpls] mppoa -- again!

2002-12-13 Thread Linda Higgins
Unbelievable but the MPPOA fundraisers called again tonight. When I told him to stop because they'd called yesterday, he wouldn't believe me. Then I told him to put us on the Do Not Call List, and he started arguing with me. His parting comment as I was hanging up was "We'll call again another tim

Re: [Mpls] Racism :Unfortunately An Equal Opportunity Evil Part II

2002-12-13 Thread JIM GRAHAM
I had expected Mr. Luce to come back on list, particularly on this issue. I had also expected Mr. Luce to bring up the voting issue at Ventura Village and possibly to offer false information. I sadly see my expectations were correct. Mr. Luce offers information about what Bob Miller said. Funny,

[Mpls] Third ward and the greens

2002-12-13 Thread Many Crows
I think some dfl'ers are going to unpleasantly surprised again in February. With the sale of many houses and duplexes in northeast, has brought many new young people who lean pretty heavily left, left enough to be green? oh yesI met them tonite, I'm averaging one or two Shane Price signs a day.

Re: [Mpls] Check the facts first

2002-12-13 Thread Lisa McDonald
As Shakespere says "me thinks they doth protest too much."   Lisa McDonald   - Original Message - From: Sether, Laura S Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Check the facts first  In reference to the posting by G.R. Anderson, from the City Pages, wi

[Mpls] Check the facts first

2002-12-13 Thread Sether, Laura S
In reference to the posting by G.R. Anderson, from the City Pages, with the questionable headline "mayor getting hard:" The City Pages and other weekly and monthly publications provide great perspective that daily reporters can't sometimes provide when they are filing stories every day. It's o

RE: [Mpls] Slight, Important Correction

2002-12-13 Thread Barbara Lickness
I didn't say that NRP doesn't encourage the participation of businesses or anything the like. I said, MCDA policies do not require MCDA recognized Citizen Participation neighborhoods to allow every business owner, employee, or otherwise to show up and vote. The word is require. I did not say they d

Re: [Mpls] Re: Samuels vs. Price: discuss

2002-12-13 Thread Jhpalmerjp
I find it a bit disheartening that after the forum last night and given how this race is going, that instead of talking about how the endorsed candidates stack up against each other of the two leading DFLers stack up against each other, the discussion is about how the Black candidates stand up a

Re: [Mpls] Ventura Village - Citizen Participation

2002-12-13 Thread Jim MCGUIRE
MCDA Citizen Participation policy requires that 60% of the Board of Directors be residents. Beyond that, neighborhood associations are free to open their board eligibility and voting rights to other groups in the neighborhood. It is not out of line for VV to establish that each business in th

[Mpls] Hiawatha, a commercial corridor

2002-12-13 Thread jeff carlson
The recent discussions on the unsustainable speed limit of 35 mph on Hiawatha reveal fatal design flaws in need of remedying. As I understand it, adjacent neighborhoods were promised a mitigation measure that the speed limit would never excede 35 mph. That rules out increasing the speed limit, wh

Re: [Mpls] Ventura Village - Citizen Participation

2002-12-13 Thread WizardMarks
Barbara Lickness wrote: I wouldn't wish what Central is going through on any neighborhood. WM: It's always so much fun to be used as the horrible example--and for all the wrong reasons! The issues that burst the bubble in Central were, and remain, racism, classism, and health. It has been on

[Mpls] Crime;Business

2002-12-13 Thread Dan Prozinski
Jim Mork says: "No, if this city is to remain liveable, we have to maintain standards both for what businesses are acceptable but how seedy properties become. That's the essence of civilization." DP: These standards, these laws, are contained in the city's zoning code. What if the city goes agai

Re: [Mpls] Ventura Village - Citizen Participation

2002-12-13 Thread Michael Atherton
Barbara Lickness wrote: > NRP does not have rules on citizen participation > requirement. We yield that scrutiny to the MCDA and > whatever group in a neighborhood is the recipient of > the MCDA Citizen Participation contract is also then > charged with planning and implementation activities > for

RE: [Mpls] Crime;Business

2002-12-13 Thread Michael Hohmann
Jim Mork, speaking of the many reasons for small business failure, says in part: > ...Some are just poorly-run businesses. > The MAJORITY of small businesses fail. It is so > easy to get into a business for which there isn't > a breakeven market. And even when the market is > good, lots of people

RE: [Mpls] Slight, Important Correction

2002-12-13 Thread Gregory D. Luce
The letter referenced below was from Robert Cooper, of the MCDA's Community Outreach Department, not Robert Miller. Sorry for the mistake. > [GDL] People later challenged this voting change (which came > from Ventura Village and not from NRP), and NRP Director Bob > Miller wrote Ventura Villag

[Mpls] New issue of Minneapolis Watchdog is out

2002-12-13 Thread Christian Nielsen
Hi all, I just thought I'd let you know the new Watchdog is on the street. Since I discovered this publication I can't wait for it to come out every month! I've learned more about local politics than I ever wanted to know. But unlike the watered-down, squeaky-clean version of news and editorial

[Mpls] Ventura Village - Citizen Participation

2002-12-13 Thread Barbara Lickness
There was a change in state law that has necessitated some neighborhood organizations to change their by-laws so they are in compliance. If you are not sure whether your neighborhood is in compliance, contact Bob Cooper at 673-5239, MCDA Citizen Participation Director or Robert Thompson, NRP Traini

[Mpls] Who pays the highest taxes: Minneapolis #3 (Pioneer Press today)

2002-12-13 Thread Victoria Heller
Who pays the most taxes: http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/4727681.htm Related article: What's the problem? NO BUSINESS! http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/4727867.htm Note to Jim Mork: I said the LAWFUL use of one's own property. Vicky Heller Cedar-River

Re: [Mpls] Re: Samuels vs. Price: discuss

2002-12-13 Thread Susan Maricle
--- dyna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for Olin Moore being guilty by implication because he has > worked for constituents in Martin Olav Sabo's > office, this is a > pretty desperate attempt to defame Olin. It's nothing of the kind. Moore might be the perfect candidate. However, his

RE: [Mpls] Racism :Unfortunately An Equal Opportunity Evil Part II

2002-12-13 Thread Gregory D. Luce
Jim Graham wrote: ---Mr. Miller is not credible here unless he was one of the people that PPL and Steve Walsh attempted to mobilize to vote fraudulently at a Ventura Village meeting (in an attempt to stage a coup similar to the one they had staged in Central Neighborhood). I searched the sign in

[Mpls] New 3rd Ward discussion list

2002-12-13 Thread List Manager
A list has been started to provide information and discuss the 3rd Ward race. To join the list send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives for the list are available at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mpls-3rdward/ Several 3rd ward candidates have already joined the list. More are being

[Mpls] Fresh Christmas Trees

2002-12-13 Thread Anderson, Sue
I've gotten fresh, long-lasting "pre-cut" trees at Southside Farm Store for many years. Ask Julie for recommendations, as she gets them delivered direct from local growers. The last couple of years I've gotten excellent Fraser firs, which are noted for minimal shedding anyway. I believe Julie said

Re: [Mpls] Health care and local government

2002-12-13 Thread Barbara Lickness
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[Mpls] Health care and local government

2002-12-13 Thread heather martens
Hello list, The city, state and school budget crises may seem unrelated to the current controversy over privacy and the state Health Department’s collection of health care data, but they really aren’t. I think the City Council and other local government entities should weigh in on this issue by as

[Mpls] Possible Graffiti Cost Cutting

2002-12-13 Thread Michael Atherton
With our looming budget crisis we should be looking into creative ways to cut costs: Camera Is Graffiti's Unwelcome Audience A modified film camera is being used in Milwaukee, Los Angeles and other cities to deter graffiti vandalism. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/12/technology/circuits/12graf.h

Re: [Mpls] Re: Samuels vs. Price: discuss

2002-12-13 Thread phaedrus
Dyna, I'm not sure why you include Shane Price in your look at DFL endorsedment and candidates. He may have once been DFL, but he is now a Green and, from what I've seen, has the support of many Greens and Green leaners. You feel he's an opportunist. Other people have tried to do the same with th

Re: [Mpls] Ed Solomon

2002-12-13 Thread JOAN BERTHIAUME
To the Citizens of Minneapolis,   The death of Minneapolis Park Commissioner, Ed Solomon, is a great loss to us all. Ed  used his position as Commissioner to protect the Parks for all of  the People. He knew the importance of our neighborhood parks and value of their recreation atributes.  

[Mpls] Racism :Unfortunately An Equal Opportunity Evil Part II

2002-12-13 Thread JIM GRAHAM
  # II of two part post Mr. Miller also says,  "I should know--I showed up for a meeting of "VenturaVillage" and was told I couldn't vote because me and a roomful of people ofcolor hadn't "signed up" to vote 30 days earlier."Mr. Miller is not credible here -- unless he was one of the people

[Mpls] Crime;Business

2002-12-13 Thread Jim Mork
I read the City Pages article, and it was a good one. But I didn't see a single thing in it that foreshadowed Tyesha's death. Seems to me that they are related but separate stories. The only link is the claim that the police are understaffed and overworked. But if CODEFOR had been used, it wou

[Mpls] RT creates affordable housing overnight - for free!

2002-12-13 Thread Victoria Heller
>From G.R. Anderson Jr.'s article. The "Mayor and Police Chief Say 'Get out and Stay out' to gangs in Minneapolis." Vicky comments.. Just think of all the apartments opening up - and it won't cost the taxpayers a cent. Nice going Mayor Rybak. Vicky Heller Cedar-Riverside and North

[Mpls] Non-Partisan Arts for the Holidays!

2002-12-13 Thread Constance Nompelis
Saturday, December 14th, from 11AM to 7PM At the home of Connie & Ioannis Nompelis: 2201 16th Ave. South, first floor Ventura Village, Minneapolis 612-724-5792 (for directions) Take a break from politicking and come browse the work of six Minneapolis artists, including list members Erik Riese an

[Mpls] Re: Samuels vs. Price: discuss

2002-12-13 Thread dyna
Susan, this is a fun fantasy, but the reality is that even if we gave them every rule change in the book and a few that aren't neither Shane Price or Don Samuels would have won the endorsement. Olin Moore ended up with something like 44 votes out of about 74 to win the endorsement. Shane Pric

[Mpls] Strib edit on MIA expansion - Yes, yes, yes

2002-12-13 Thread Victoria Heller
>From the Strib editorial. "It's a happy occasion that cultural assets like the Walker, the Guthrie and the institute want to expand in the city. The institute's new wing is entirely privately financed." Vicky adds.. Ditto for BUSINESS! With emphasis on PRIVATELY FINANCED. It's time th

[Mpls] City Pages blogs

2002-12-13 Thread List Manager
City Pages reporter G.R. Anderson has some pithy thoughts about R.T. Rybak...see the paper's new blog section: http://radio.weblogs.com/0116681/ David Brauer List manager ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post mes

[Mpls] More info on community selection: Federal Mediation

2002-12-13 Thread Shawn Lewis
Part of article out of context: Gross declined to release a list of the representatives chosen at the meeting, but did acknowledge that meeting participants voted to keep the traditional Black leadership, such as the NAACP and the Urban League, from being considered. NAACP representatives di

[Mpls] Re: Samuels vs. Price: discuss

2002-12-13 Thread Susan Maricle
I'm no longer a Mpls. resident, but even if I were would be ineligible to vote in the 3d Ward election. I agree that Don Samuels would be a dynamic choice. So would Shane Price. Both were at Ground Zero of this summer's "melee". To the supporters of these candidates, what are the distinctions betwe