Re: [Mpls] SW schools escape closure - reaction?

2004-11-24 Thread Dan McGuire
It is not surprising that some schools avoided being closed while others did not . I've been reminded by those paying attention to school matters for much longer than I that it is also not surprising that decisions of this magnitude and import for the future are being made without financia

[Mpls] Re: Why the division between Park Board Commissioners?

2004-11-24 Thread Svattheriver
Ken Bradley asks: "Why can't board members work more cooperatively together? I am running for Park Board District 3 in the upcoming election and would suggest that Commissioners, their personalities and skill sets need to be examined to answer that question. If I had been elected three yea

[Mpls] SW schools escape closure - reaction?

2004-11-24 Thread Michael Atherton
On February 13, 2004 I wrote: "I will be fascinated to see if a 'small politically connected clique' is going to be able leverage keeping open a small neighborhood school of 80 children while other larger schools all over the city are being closed in the name of efficiency. You might think, '

Re: [Mpls] Voting alternatives

2004-11-24 Thread Andy Driscoll
Let's get some issues straight about IRV. 1. IRV need only be used in *partisan* races to sort out winners when the leading party's candidate receives less than 50%-plus-one vote. This is to convert plurality victories to majority victories ONLY in the general election - and two months after the p

Re: [Mpls] Why the division between Park Board Commissioners?

2004-11-24 Thread Dorie Rae Gallagher
Ken wrote.. > Do you have actual proof, of this allegation? The Park Board members do receive campaign contributions, but the combined contributions are reported, and would fill a rather small boat, when compared to other city races, such as city council or Mayor. > > VH wrote: Here is the likely

[Mpls] RE: South Mpls. places to eat (the "real" south-east, not the University area which is east-east and really is "old St. Anthony")

2004-11-24 Thread Ray Marshall
I only eat there for breakfasts, but I find the Bridgeman's between 46th and Minnehaha Park east of Hiawatha (south end of the shopping center) to have a great breakfast. Their special hash browns with cheese, onions and green peppers are fabulous. That's all you really need, come to think of it.

[Mpls] Re: Dining with Inflatables in Mpls

2004-11-24 Thread Tim Bonham
I understand the Casalendas space (still Mario's, to me) needs several thousand dollars worth of work in the kitchen area to bring it up to code for a restaurant food prep space. That is why Casalendas closed down, and apparently is enough to scare off any prospective new restaurant, too. Tim

[Mpls] Response to Commissioner Mason

2004-11-24 Thread Scott Neiman
Tony Scallon is right. The negativity of some citizens and commissioners has done far more to harm the search process than most will ever know. One can simply look at the decision of last year's finalists to withdraw at the last moment to see its potential impact. What's ironic, is it now app

Re: [Mpls] Dining with Inflatables in Mpls

2004-11-24 Thread Dan
Gina wrote: "Its ok if we have differing opinions on The Rail House. I thought it was exactly Jimmys but with fresh paint and new carpet. Same menu, not vegetarian friendly(unless you like a bad iceberg salad or heavily fried Mushrooms)-I thought it was a total lost opportunity. As a matter of f

[Mpls] SW Schools Escape Closure

2004-11-24 Thread Tom Madden
I think Mr. GoldmanĀ¹s point #6 is key. In one sense, those of us who send our children to the MPS schools are supposed to consider all MPS schools. However, this last process seemed to pit school against school and neighborhood against neighborhood in some cases. I was disappointed with the lack

RE: [Mpls] SW schools escape closure - reaction?

2004-11-24 Thread Paul Barber
I thought this article on November 15th explained a lot about why southwest schools were escaping closure: http://www.startribune.com/stories/1405/5085524.html "Since 1999, kindergarten through eighth-grade enrollment in the school district-defined southwest quadrant has slipped by a shade over 10

[Mpls] SW schools escape closure - reaction?

2004-11-24 Thread rpgoldman
Since I've been asked, I am pleased that Jefferson has survived the axe. We have already heard from people who feel that it would be a very good thing if some schools were closed. Based on my experience watching this process (I was, unfortunately, out of town on the day of the most recent meetin

[Mpls] Re: PPERRIA Votes to Continue Excluding Students

2004-11-24 Thread Steve Cross
Greg Luce said: "Rather than endlessly debating Michael Atherton's abstention and/or whether he exhibited hypocrisy in his public statements, I'd rather hear about the arguments--pro and con--about trying to get more people engaged in PPERRIA, particularly students." I'll go for that. First of a

[Mpls] Dining with Inflatables in Mpls

2004-11-24 Thread Gina Palandri
Its ok if we have differing opinions on The Rail House. I thought it was exactly Jimmys but with fresh paint and new carpet. Same menu, not vegetarian friendly(unless you like a bad iceberg salad or heavily fried Mushrooms)-I thought it was a total lost opportunity. As a matter of fact s

[Mpls] Re: PPERRIA Votes to Continue Excluding Students

2004-11-24 Thread nomorelead
Steve Cross writes: So, how did Director Atherton vote at the meeting on this issue that he thinks is crucial? ANSWER: He voted to ABSTAIN. On a change in the bylaws, a fixed number of votes (27 of the 40 directors) is required to adopt the amendment. His vote to "abstain" is, consequently,

Re: [Mpls] Raising the "Bar" in good quality Mpls Neighboorhoodrestaurants!

2004-11-24 Thread Dan
Gina Wrote: "Something called the Rail House that used to be Jimmy's that apparently has taken it upon themselves to blow up the scariest big blow-up "things" I have ever seen and place them right outside in front of their doors. Kind of ugly if you ask me.(perhaps a "BAN" on sidewalk ugliness wou

Re: [Mpls] Who's really fighting voting alternatives? was PR is the answer

2004-11-24 Thread David Weinlick
On Wednesday, November 24, 2004, at 02:13 PM, David Shove wrote: Agree on one thing? We could begin with IRV - Instand Runoff Voting. We had a vote on IRV. In the House, 90% of DFLers voted in favor it, and 90% of Republicans voted against it. In the Senate, 91% of DFLers voted in favor of it,

[Mpls] PPERRIA Votes to Continue Excluding Students

2004-11-24 Thread Steve Cross
Michael Atherton said: "Last night my neighborhood association voted to reject an amendment that would have allowed "dorm" students to become members." Just for the record, Michael Atherton is a member of the Board of Directors of PPERRIA. He, as I do, feels that it is vital for students to part

Re: [Mpls] Raising the "Bar" in good quality Mpls Neighboorhoodrestaurants!

2004-11-24 Thread Randall G Cutting
Gina writes > ...And wanting to walk, ride a bicycle, or drive a few blocks-for that > matter maybe even hop on the Ol' train-I mean what am missing? I just > think we should raise the bar of quality for these strictly "neighborhood" > restaurants, and not settle with mediocrity, and not have to d

Re: [Mpls] Who's really fighting voting alternatives? was PR is the answer

2004-11-24 Thread David Shove
Agree on one thing? We could begin with IRV - Instand Runoff Voting. 1. There is only one version of IRV - not many to dispute over 2. All wards remain; their boundaries unchanged; the pothole fixer is still in your ward, all the familiar homey stuff. 3. What's new: you vote 1-2-3 for your counc

Re: [Mpls] Terrific Condomania article in CityPages.....

2004-11-24 Thread Jeff Rosenberg
It seems to me that the condo/loft market is in fine shape in Minneapolis. I would imagine that appreciation of these units is leveling off, but demand seems to be high enough to fuel this development for a long time. Admittedly, there's only so long the high-end condo market can sustain itself. W

[Mpls] condo buyers, where are they coming from?

2004-11-24 Thread Mark Wilde
There were definitely two groups of lookers: empty nesters (like ourselves) and young people (couples in their 20s). I just wish I had a handle on whether the empty nesters are suburbanites coming to the city or city folks that want to stay in the city. Bill Dooley Kenny One of the condo deve

[Mpls] Recap of the S. Mpls "hood" eat spots

2004-11-24 Thread Gina Palandri
Ok-so again-not trying to steal the show from the local city pages food critic-I agree Singapore is pretty good, but since my last visit there I was with 2 other neighbors (who are some of the cities finest Chocolatiers may I add, and whom are foodies like myself) there was one server at Si

[Mpls] South Mpls. places to eat

2004-11-24 Thread Barbara Lickness
Matts (35th and Cedar), Chatterbox (35th and 23rd), Caps (50th and Hiawatha), Fat Lorenzos (Lake Nokomis Pkwy and Cedar), and the 5-8 (58th and Cedar) and for a completely different type of shopping experience (with selfish motivation because my brother owns it) try Nokomis Shoes. You may need a n

[Mpls] SW schools escape closure--reaction?

2004-11-24 Thread Steve Brandt
As long as the Listmeister has raised the topic of school closings, I wanted to correct an error I made today. Buzzy Bohn, whom I quoted, works at Loring school, not Hamilton. My brain knew that, but my fingers typed Hamilton. So to clarify, Hamilton is still on the closure list. My apologies t

[Mpls] Who's really fighting voting alternatives? was PR is the answer

2004-11-24 Thread David Weinlick
On Wednesday, November 24, 2004, at 02:10 AM, David Shove suggested that the DFL is the barrier to enacting some alternative form of voting: Be prepared for DFL hacks jumping up and down, going ballistic, frothing at the mouth, predicting the end of the world, etc. But we and they know they ju

RE: [Mpls] Raising the "Bar" in good quality Mpls Neighboorhoodrestaurants!

2004-11-24 Thread Doug Walter
Gina, Have you tried the somewhat upscale Singapore! At 56th St and 34th Ave. S (6 blocks directly south of Al Vento's)? Singapore's two chef's have created a remarkable fusion of Malaysian and Ethiopian--unlike anything I've ever tried, and the sum is better than the parts might indicate. There

Re: [Mpls] Raising the "Bar" in good quality Mpls Neighboorhood restaurants!

2004-11-24 Thread Jason C Stone
A couple more good ones. Jason Stone Diamond Lake * * * Jamaica, Jamaica Restaurant, 3765 Bloomington Avenue South, (612) 721-0264 Food: Jamaican specialities Hours: Mon & Tues Noon - 7:00pm, Wed.- Sat Noon - 8:00pm, closed Sundays. First Course (612) 825-6900 5607 Chicago Ave Minneapolis,

Re: [Mpls] Raising the "Bar" in good quality Mpls Neighboorhood restaurants!

2004-11-24 Thread WLDJ36
It's a matter of supply and demand. I do believe the Light Rail and new housing development will have the biggest affect on neighborhood restaurants in the immediate future. Bill Dooley Kenny REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] be

Re: [Mpls] Terrific Condomania article in CityPages.....

2004-11-24 Thread WLDJ36
I have not read the CITY PAGES article. My wife and I did the Living Lofts Tour last weekend along with hordes of folks. There were definitely two groups of lookers: empty nesters (like ourselves) and young people (couples in their 20s). I just wish I had a handle on whether the empty nesters

[Mpls] Raising the "Bar" in good quality Mpls Neighboorhood restaurants!

2004-11-24 Thread Gina Palandri
Heres a neutral topic-that I sure think might even be more "critical". In the neighborhoods of Seward, Powderhorn, Standish, Longfellow, Nokomis, Corcoran; what appears to be really lacking is good, not $$$, but just good fare to eat when you are too exhausted to cook at home. And quite hones

Re: [Mpls] Terrific Condomania article in CityPages.....

2004-11-24 Thread David Brauer
On Nov 24, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Victoria Heller wrote: Prices falling..watch out below! I hope there's no public money in these deals (other than $95 million in The Village at St. Anthony). The trouble with markets is they go up and down, and no one knows quite when or how. That doesn't mean disas

Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis marching in lockstep

2004-11-24 Thread WizardMarks
Dan wrote: I live right in the middle of it, and I see the same view. There are disagreements about how to turn Minneapolis into a socialist "utopia," but ultimately, our city council has the same end vision, and the agenda has been moving forward like greased lightning, regardless of some petty s

Re: [Mpls] Why the division between Park Board Commissioners?

2004-11-24 Thread ken bradley
Hello Vicki, Do you have actual proof, of this allegation? The Park Board members do receive campaign contributions, but the combined contributions are reported, and would fill a rather small boat, when compared to other city races, such as city council or Mayor. I am fairly certain that our

Re: [Mpls] SW schools escape closure - reaction?

2004-11-24 Thread Shawn
Oh yes. Forgot to mention the part that made me understand this state-wide, yet local, issue. Gracie asked me if animals were more important than kids. Shawn Marie Christenson Central - Downtown/West - Original Message - From: "List manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[Mpls] Why the division between Park Board Commissioners?

2004-11-24 Thread Victoria Heller
Ken Bradley asks: "Why can't board members work more cooperatively together? Why is the board appear to be so divided? (The board appears to be bitterly divided more often then not. Other city boards at least appear to be able to work together, even when board members have significant differenc

Re: [Mpls] SW schools escape closure - reaction?

2004-11-24 Thread Shawn
I can only say this much. I pulled my little girl from the Minneapolis schools a year ago because I learned her school (Downtown Open) was closing. Of course, I learned this on the exact day that Pawlenty said we needed to give a ton of money to the MN Zoo so we could "maintain our quality of life

[Mpls] Terrific Condomania article in CityPages.....

2004-11-24 Thread Victoria Heller
Prices falling..watch out below! I hope there's no public money in these deals (other than $95 million in The Village at St. Anthony). http://www.citypages.com/databank/25/1251/article12714.asp Relayed by Vicky Heller North Oaks and Cedar-Riverside REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has vi

[Mpls] Why the division between Park Board Commissioners?

2004-11-24 Thread ken bradley
Hello Minneapolis Folks, I have had the privilege of working with many different bodies of government, and while they all have strengths and weaknesses, the Minneapolis Park Board Commissioners seem to excel at being confrontational, and antagonistic towards each other. It appears to me that t

[Mpls] Re: It has been blah, blah, blah...

2004-11-24 Thread nomorelead
Jim Graham writes: Heck, Eric it's not necessary to fire, you folks seem to shot your own reputations plenty good. As Mr. Oines says "He was not there" and so he speaks from hearsay, with NO personal knowledge of the facts. "Speaking at a meeting" as he claims is VERY different than sitting o

[Mpls] SW schools escape closure - reaction?

2004-11-24 Thread List manager
Steve Brandt reports today that no Southwest-area school will close (two were originally on the list, then one, now none). Steve says SW enrollment is down 10 percent since 1999 compared to 31 percent on the North Side. Since we're a citywide forum, I'm wondering about people's reactions? Do t

Re: [Mpls] Responsible Park Commissioners

2004-11-24 Thread David Wilson
Maybe we should send Walt Dziedzic to clean up the election mess in the Ukraine. From the reports of the last several Minneapolis Park Board meetings, it seems that his skill-set would mix in there very well. David Wilson Loring Park On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Chris Johnson wrote: > Tony Scallon mi

Re: [Mpls] PPERRIA Votes to Continue Excluding Students

2004-11-24 Thread Barbara Lickness
Board membership is not an NRP issue. Board membership is an MCDA Citizen Participation issue. NRP works with the neighborhood group that recieves the Citizen Participation contract from MCDA. That being said, alot has changed. There is no longer an MCDA and the current Citizen Participation proce

Re: [Mpls] PPERRIA Votes to Continue Excluding Students

2004-11-24 Thread Jeff Rosenberg
Michael Atherton wrote: "Last night my neighborhood association voted to reject an amendment that would have allowed "dorm" students to become members. It has been argued in this forum and others why PPERRIA believes it is justified in excluding students. Our council member, Paul Zerby, had also

[Mpls] Responsible Park Commissioners

2004-11-24 Thread Chris Johnson
Tony Scallon misses Liz Wielinski's point. Commissioner Mason (and Commissioner Young) were calmly asking for fiscal and procedural ccountability from Jon Gurban, the interim superintendent, when Walt Dziedzic went on the attack. It is their responsibility as elected officials and stewards of ou

[Mpls] Fw: PEACE Foundation Web Log

2004-11-24 Thread Dorie Rae Gallagher
PEACE Foundation Web Log Logged by Don Samuels, Thanksgiving Week Never underestimate the power of kindness in a moment of great need. The giver might forget and move on, but the recipient is left with a lifelong memory of gratitude and transformed view of the human community. Here is an exampl

Re: [Mpls] Re:Smoking

2004-11-24 Thread David Strand
Thanks Barb, Some of us(including some former smokers) appreciate the freedom to again go to public accomadations that were inaccessible to us due to smoke. In my opinion it's no different than making more establishments handicap accessible by requiring installation of ramps and other accomadation

[Mpls] PR is the answer: was Minneapolis marching in lockstep

2004-11-24 Thread David Shove
Dan The ONLY way you're going to get several Republicans/Libertarians on the Mpls city Council is by PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION (PR) As long as over 70% of each ward is DFL + Green, there's NO way your maybe 30% of conservatives can win ANY seats. Even tho you're 30%. Unfai