[Mpls] Re: MPD: New smoking ban approach

2005-03-12 Thread David Shove
I like it. It is already established in law that, if you suffer damage/have an accident on Smith's property, you can sue Smith for damages. This is why property owners carry such insurance. We have here a smoking-induced injury caused on the property, with the associated liability. Smoking bar o

Re: [Mpls] New smoking ban approach

2005-03-12 Thread gemgram
Steve Nelson writes: "Any employer who wishes to allow his establishment to be a non-smoke free environment takes on the liability of his employees health care in relation to any health care problems related to or aggravated by tobacco smoke. The burden of proof falls upon the owner of the esta

[Mpls] New smoking ban approach

2005-03-12 Thread Steve Nelson
Since the objections to a smoking ban seem to be a fear of loss of profits over concern for employees health, I propose the following law be enacted to preserve the freedom of choice for bar and private club owners...and any other employer who wishes to allow smoking in their business. The argu

[Mpls] NAACP officers cut a deal, bypass Executive Committee

2005-03-12 Thread Socialist2001
Below is the text of a letter from Duane Reed, Minneapolis NAACP branch president to Ms. Marceline Dubose, Department of Education, project manager for the Parent Information Centers. [On Minneapolis NAACP Branch letterhead] March 5, 2005 Ms. Marceline Dubose Minn

[Mpls] re: Recent history of 2nd Ward DFL endorsements and a proposal

2005-03-12 Thread Tim Bonham
My first and last ward endorsing convention put me off a bit. I can't remember the number of ballots (few), but I do remember what happened between last two votes: An assistant to the incumbent CP handed her cell phone to the lowest vote getter, he listened to it, then proceeded to throw hi

Re: [Mpls] Re: Bonham and the violins

2005-03-12 Thread David Shove
Hasn't anyone here heard of training in non-violins? --David Shove Roseville On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Tim Bonham wrote: > > >it was the first time in about 40 years that an incumbent City Council > >Member had been defeated in a primary. > >. . . > >The Elite Few don't want to believe that ordinary

[Mpls] Re: Bonham and the violins

2005-03-12 Thread Tim Bonham
it was the first time in about 40 years that an incumbent City Council Member had been defeated in a primary. . . . The Elite Few don't want to believe that ordinary people are capable of thinking and making decisions - the EF have to do it for the ordinaries. Zerby's flogging Campbell showed tha

[Mpls] Other transit agencies' problems

2005-03-12 Thread Bruce Gaarder
See this article for Chicago problems www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0503090387mar09,1,474579.story?coll=chi-newslocal-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true Visit www.EffectiveTransit.org The Independent Unsubsidized Voice of Citizens for Effective Transit in the Twin Cities (no lrt) * lrt isn't a po

RE: [Mpls] IRV will help ensure endorsement

2005-03-12 Thread Eva Young
At 10:10 PM 3/10/2005, Jeanne Massey wrote: Forwarded by Jeanne Massey from Tony Solgard: As I see it, the way to use IRV in the endorsement process (with a 60 percent supermajority requirement) is to use the instant runoff mechanism on the first ballot to narrow the field to two candidates. If thi

[Mpls] Storm Water Fee criteria (apparent absence of, that is)

2005-03-12 Thread ABerget
I got my storm water fee billing this week and was surprised to find my property charged the highest rate since I have a 40'x140' lot with no driveway, alley or garage. Only my house sits on the lot unless you count my garden shed (6'x8'). I wanted to know what the criteria is for the diffe

[Mpls] Part 2. The violins continue to sob but play on the wrongpage

2005-03-12 Thread Steve Cross
Michael Atherton said: Dan Miller is a PPERRIA boardmember. I'd like to hear his honest opinion on how inclusive he believes PPERRIA to be, but I don't think I'll get it. Just to be fair, people should know that Dan Miller has supported amending PPERRIA's Bylaws to admit dorm students as members.

RE: [Mpls] NO DISRESPECT INTENDED.....

2005-03-12 Thread V.L. Freeman
MA says: I find it curious how people on the North side (and Central) get up in arms (no pun intended) when one or two people are killed, but are silent about a much more pervasive problem affecting far more children. VF says: First, let me say Hello! You must have me twisted. I have been posti

[Mpls] Minnesotans favor medical marijuana two-to-one

2005-03-12 Thread Jason Samuels
To my surprise, I haven't seen anything in the papers about this. The Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) released the results of a Zogby poll on Thursday showing that 60% of Minnesotans support medical marijuana. In Minneapolis/St. Paul the number was 78.5%. Interestingly the response was even stron

RE: [Mpls] Part 2. The violins continue to sob but play on the wrongpage

2005-03-12 Thread Michael Atherton
Bob Johnson wrote: > Once again, occupancy limit ordinances are irrelevant here since the > three students were not killed by overoccupancy. You are really > trying hard to ignore this fundamental fact. I always knew that the housing sweeps were BS. Dinkytown is no more safer now than bef

RE: [Mpls] NO DISRESPECT INTENDED.....

2005-03-12 Thread Michael Atherton
V.L. Freeman wrote: > Look if you need me and/or other folks to help, just ask! > But, please don't sit by and do nothing. Don't just send > the MPD alone. Send services along with MPD. Embrace the > whole problem not just part of a problem. Don't use the band > aid solution to a prob

[Mpls] NO DISRESPECT INTENDED.....

2005-03-12 Thread V.L. Freeman
Hello List! "I guest this posting is especially for those in power to do something." I am sorry, that this is not about ward 2, or rain barrels etcÂ… This is about the quality of life, which means a whole heck of a lot more to me then any election, rain barrels, light rail, 94 corridor etcÂ… I mean

[Mpls] Zimmermann at the Capital

2005-03-12 Thread Barbara Lickness
Selections from Zimmermann's PRT testimony: http://www.roadkillbill.com/PRT-ZIMCapitol.html Listen to more of Zimmermann bashing transit and spinning elaborate PRT fantasies at the Capitol: http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/audio/ archivescomm.asp?comm=17&ls_year=84 Click on the March 9th mee

[Mpls] Part 2. The violins continue to sob but play on the wrong page

2005-03-12 Thread Bob Johnson
[Lickness]: If you don't like the current ordinances dictating occupancy limits work to change them but a violation is a violation. [Johnson]: Once again, occupancy limit ordinances are irrelevant here since the three students were not killed by overoccupancy. You are really trying hard to i

[Mpls] Part 1. The violins continue to sob but play on the wrong page

2005-03-12 Thread Bob Johnson
[Lickness]: Mr. Johnson, are you suggesting that violations of occupancy limits should have been ignored? [Johnson]: Of course I am not suggesting any such thing, but you are trying really hard to change the subject by ignoring the fact that the three UM student deaths were not caused by overocc

[Mpls] Recent history of 2nd Ward DFL endorsements and a proposal

2005-03-12 Thread WJKAHN
My first and last ward endorsing convention put me off a bit. I can't remember the number of ballots (few), but I do remember what happened between last two votes: An assistant to the incumbent CP handed her cell phone to the lowest vote getter, he listened to it, then proceeded to throw

[Mpls] Submission for Mpls Issues list

2005-03-12 Thread Stephen Rueff
All, Below is a letter from Councilmembers Niziolek and Zimmerman and me regarding our ongoing conversation with the community on the environmental impact of leaf blowers and options to address these concerns. This letter invites YOU to participate in the conversation - your voice is needed to

Decorum note (Was [Mpls] Bonham and the violins)

2005-03-12 Thread List Manager
Please do not put members' names in the subject - it encourages personal disputes forbidden by the rules. Speak to the issue, not the person. David Brauer List manager REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation,

[Mpls] Bonham and the violins

2005-03-12 Thread Bob Johnson
[Bonham]: >Yes, DFL "honchos" do support the DFL-endorsed candidate chosen by >the DFL delegates. >Of course! Why should that be puzzling, or frustrating, or at all hard to >understand? >Who do you expect DFL party officers to support other than DFL-endorsed >candidates? [Johnson]: Yes, the DFL