Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-12 Thread Marc Sabatella
No, tiues that are not to adjacent note are definitely musically necessary sometimes. They just shouldn't necessarily be so *easy* to create. If your XML file produced the result shown in your picture, then your MusicXML file probably has errors in it. Again, asking for help in the Supprot forum

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-12 Thread antonjazzsax
Marc Sabatella wrote > I was uncomfortable with making the tie command a toggle, as that would > make it harder to correct the situations where this happens currently. > Right now, if you inadvertently create a partially tied chord (and it's > easy enough to this in the normal course of editing), y

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-11 Thread Marc Sabatella
I'm not sure what you're saying here. I agree having chords with partial ties is normally not what one wants. And that's precisely why I was saying I was uncomfortable with making the tie command a toggle, as that would make it harder to correct the situations where this happens currently. Right no

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-11 Thread antonjazzsax
Marc Sabatella wrote > The downside of changing the tie button into a toggle is that it becomes > potentially harder to handle chords well. Currently you can use the tie > button to easily add ties to notes in a chord without affecting existing > ties. If we changed the tie to a toggle, you'd pot

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-11 Thread Marc Sabatella
The downside of changing the tie button into a toggle is that it becomes potentially harder to handle chords well. Currently you can use the tie button to easily add ties to notes in a chord without affecting existing ties. If we changed the tie to a toggle, you'd potentially end up adding ties w

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-11 Thread Lasconic
I was more talking about adding a toggle when a note is selected. lasconic 2016-04-11 18:06 GMT+02:00 Marc Sabatella : > The downside of changing the tie button into a toggle is that it becomes > potentially harder to handle chords well. Currently you can use the tie > button to easily add ties

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-11 Thread Lasconic
recaculate note lengths after a copy paste Yes. I want this function too. Do we have a formal feature request for it in the issue tracker? 99% of times you only need two consecutive notes tied over. I agree too. I think it's too easy currently to tie two non consecutive notes. In my view, it sho

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-10 Thread Marc Sabatella
I can totally agree with the idea of a command to automatically recaculate note lengths after a copy paste, to replace unnecessary ties with the correct note value. But this has nothing to do with deleting a tie. I'd want a single command the did this for the whole selection - I wouldn't want to

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-10 Thread antonjazzsax
Jojo-Schmitz wrote > a) those ties are not unnecessary at all, they try to keep note durations! > b) if you want to get rid of them, select start to end of desired section, > right click a tie in that selection," all similar in selection", Del. sorry again I wasn't clear enough, by saying gettin

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-10 Thread antonjazzsax
Thank you and sorry I didn't explain myself quite clearly. Marc Sabatella wrote > my point is, ties are not unique in this, or even a > particualrly good example, because ties are probably deleted *less* often > than other elements in normal usage. You are right it's not about deleting ties.

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-10 Thread Joachim Schmitz
l Message- From: antonjazzsax [mailto:antonjazz...@ukr.net] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:34 PM To: mscore-developer@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior thanks, just few thoughts to consider Jojo-Schmitz wrote > I can't really think of a quic

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-10 Thread Marc Sabatella
Wel, you said you are looking for a single keystroke command to add ties, indicating you aren't aware there already is one. And you said you were new, so that's understandable - lots of newcomers don't know about the ins and outs of how to use a program efficiently. That's where asking questions

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-10 Thread antonjazzsax
Marc Sabatella wrote > From your description of the difficulty you are having with ties, it > sounds > like perhaps you are having trouble understanding how to do something; you > might want to ask for assistance in the Support forum. Posting the score > you are having trouble with and a detailed

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-10 Thread antonjazzsax
thanks, just few thoughts to consider Jojo-Schmitz wrote > I can't really think of a quicker method to add ties. Deleting a tie is > similarly simple: select, hit Del. Basically whenever you have to select anything with a mouse it helps the beginner but is degrading workflow and speed for a po

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-10 Thread Marc Sabatella
k. > > Bye, Jojo > -Original Message- > From: antonjazzsax [mailto:antonjazz...@ukr.net] > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 1:00 PM > To: mscore-developer@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior > > Hi, > I'm new here so excuse me if anythi

Re: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-10 Thread Joachim Schmitz
e out). Using a slur instead would not work in playback. Bye, Jojo -Original Message- From: antonjazzsax [mailto:antonjazz...@ukr.net] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 1:00 PM To: mscore-developer@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior Hi, I'm new here so ex

[Mscore-developer] Ties Behavior

2016-04-10 Thread antonjazzsax
Hi, I'm new here so excuse me if anything. This one is about ties: - I think it's absolutely necessary to provide a quicker way to add/remove ties. I'm thinking a simple TOGGLE function. Ties are used heavily during note input and should really be as quick as one key stroke for both: adding and