Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread Ivanko B
>> > That seems to be another problem. Steps? >> >> Hmm... doesn't expose with the current test case. Please a clue what to >> add to the test case related to displayvalues. >> > No clue. :-) > http://www.likan.uz/uploads/mse_testcases/PODPISKA_TCASE.ZIP is a testcase to the working project. DB-s

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TMselongIntfield: assql/asoldsql, asid/asid

2012-09-14 Thread Ivanko B
Which else props to use for detecting changes between POST ? -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/cl

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TMselongIntfield: assql/asoldsql, asid/asid

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 18:42:01 news.gmane.org wrote: > What are the conditions of change of return of "asold*" ? Applying > updates ? Yes. -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks li

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TMselongIntfield: assql/asoldsql, asid/asid

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
What are the conditions of change of return of "asold*" ? Applying updates ? POST doesn't affect the "asold*" return values (checked in "field[n].OnChange" ). -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their produ

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFiledParamLink: can they link in same dataset

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
- sqlqry1 provides (via lookupbuffer) localquery.field1 - sqlqry2 provides (via lookupbuffer) localquery.field2, and sqlqry2 depends on a param bound to localquery.field1 Will this work as to proper values in localquery.field1 & localquery.field2 ? -

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
>> Hmm... doesn't expose with the current test case. Please a clue what to >> add to the test case related to displayvalues. >> > No clue. :-) > It may even be a damage to MFM files caused by the recent problems. In which scenarios can these props be used ? -

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 16:52:07 news.gmane.org wrote: > >> Here attached. Happens on deleting persistent fields (of qryMaster) by > >> the > >> fields editor. > > > > That seems to be another problem. Steps? > > Hmm... doesn't expose with the current test case. Please a clue what to > add to t

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
>> Here attached. Happens on deleting persistent fields (of qryMaster) by >> the >> fields editor. > > That seems to be another problem. Steps? > Hmm... doesn't expose with the current test case. Please a clue what to add to the test case related to displayvalues. ---

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 13:15:19 news.gmane.org wrote: > > A screenshot of the not informative error message please so I can see > > what you > > mean. > > Here attached. Happens on deleting persistent fields (of qryMaster) by the > fields editor. That seems to be another problem. Steps?

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldFieldLink: how to use ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
> Better use field components Sure but after stabilizing :) Although it's usually my choice. -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldFieldLink: how to use ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 16:34:09 news.gmane.org wrote: > Here is a piece of my today's code : > > with qryMaster do begin >actFindIndex.enabled:= > not (fields[0]{company_code}.isnull or fields[1]{catalog_code}.isnull > or fields[2]{client_type_code}.isnull); > end; > Better use field

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldFieldLink: how to use ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
Here is a piece of my today's code : with qryMaster do begin actFindIndex.enabled:= not (fields[0]{company_code}.isnull or fields[1]{catalog_code}.isnull or fields[2]{client_type_code}.isnull); end; -- Got visi

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldFieldLink: how to use ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
> It fetches the values before post by a fieldlink updatedata call AFAIK . > What should me do to see the values ? >> PS: >> Me have had to recreate almost from zero some forms with inheritance >> because of the wrong fields order bug. It was a really painful bug. >> > You use the field number re

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldFieldLink: how to use ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 15:19:35 news.gmane.org wrote: > Me tried to use it for writting initial values from a just SELECTed query > to another (local dataset with appended single record) query but the > target query seems don't receive the values (it should display them in > bound DB boolean

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldFieldLink: how to use ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
Me tried to use it for writting initial values from a just SELECTed query to another (local dataset with appended single record) query but the target query seems don't receive the values (it should display them in bound DB boolean edits). Where to dig? PS: Me have had to recreate almost fro

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 12:13:27 news.gmane.org wrote: > > Why do you think "If there's an exception then rollback the last change" > > can > > be done without a big development effort? > > If to intercept the mistake as early as possible so that it won't > propagate & branch.. > Though an exce

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] "Revert to inherited" for inherited form leaves custom components

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
leaves in PAS-file, sure. -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;262219671;13503038;y? http://inf

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] "Revert to inherited" for inherited form leaves custom components

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
that's components dropped on the from later. It means manual deleting their references in PAS-file before new inherting operation. As designed ? -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks l

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
A screenshot of the not informative error message please so I can see what you mean. Here attached. Happens on deleting persistent fields (of qryMaster) by the fields editor.<>-- Got visibility? Most devs has no ide

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Troubles with chained inheritance

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 11:31:52 news.gmane.org wrote: > With the latest test case: > > - create a new form inherited form MAINFO > - note that the tabwiget is unusable (doesn't accept tab pages) & the > button lost its caption > - to fix we should call "revert to inherited" for all affected co

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 12:02:50 news.gmane.org wrote: > >> If a dbenumeditlb on another form references a lookupbuffer on another > >> data module,.. > > > > Screenshot? > > The current project haven't yet grown to this stage :) > A screenshot of the not informative error message please so I c

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
> Why do you think "If there's an exception then rollback the last change" > can > be done without a big development effort? > If to intercept the mistake as early as possible so that it won't propagate & branch.. Though an exception (me offer to rely on) usually happens on a quite deed stag

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
>> If a dbenumeditlb on another form references a lookupbuffer on another >> data module,.. >> > Screenshot? > The current project haven't yet grown to this stage :) -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their pr

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 11:51:22 news.gmane.org wrote: > >> Why ? If there's an exception then rollback the last change. > > > > OK, so please try it and send a patch. > > It seems that You're tired. Really, the latest bugs ate like a can of > worms shaken out :) > Why do you think "If there's

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Troubles with chained inheritance

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
> Not a 100% reliable receipt. > With the tets case, Trying to edit "frame.caption" of the page of the > inherited tabwidget makes this tabpage wrongly sized. > Hmm, it seems to be a common (w/o inheritance etc) problem of TTabWidget with single page. --

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
>> Why ? If there's an exception then rollback the last change. >> > OK, so please try it and send a patch. > > It seems that You're tired. Really, the latest bugs ate like a can of worms shaken out :) -- Got visibilit

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 11:47:27 news.gmane.org wrote: > >> fix. Important for complex projects with multiple inter-form references. > > > > Example? > > If a dbenumeditlb on another form references a lookupbuffer on another > data module,.. > Screenshot? --

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
>> fix. Important for complex projects with multiple inter-form references. >> > Example? > If a dbenumeditlb on another form references a lookupbuffer on another data module,.. -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Troubles with chained inheritance

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
> - to fix we should call "revert to inherited" for all affected componets > Not a 100% reliable receipt. With the tets case, Trying to edit "frame.caption" of the page of the inherited tabwidget makes this tabpage wrongly sized.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 11:03:53 news.gmane.org wrote: > > AFAIK the messages are informative. > > They don't point to where (lookup buffer component name etc,..) to go for > fix. Important for complex projects with multiple inter-form references. > Example? > >> To rollback EVERYTHING (incl t

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Troubles with chained inheritance

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
With the latest test case: - create a new form inherited form MAINFO - note that the tabwiget is unusable (doesn't accept tab pages) & the button lost its caption - to fix we should call "revert to inherited" for all affected componets PS: We introduced some more bugs but anyway we'll behefit f

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
> AFAIK the messages are informative. > They don't point to where (lookup buffer component name etc,..) to go for fix. Important for complex projects with multiple inter-form references. >> To rollback EVERYTHING (incl the initiating change) on such exceptions. >> > Needs another man-year of de

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 10:16:37 news.gmane.org wrote: > >> Here we have an anonymous exception message giving no guess where & what > >> to fix. > > > > Example? > > In the latest test case, try to change (in fielddefs) field name of > tmsesqlquery2.FieldDefs[0] then reset Active property of t

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
>> Here we have an anonymous exception message giving no guess where & what >> to fix. > > Example? > In the latest test case, try to change (in fielddefs) field name of tmsesqlquery2.FieldDefs[0] then reset Active property of the query. We will have 2 exception sources here : 1) persistent li

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Friday 14 September 2012 09:58:40 news.gmane.org wrote: > For instance, with a local mode query : >- we have a lookup buffer with defined bindings (or a set persistent > fields) >- we change a field name (in FieldDefs) of the query which is bound to > the lookup buffer (or the fields set

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Is it possible to have more informative messages in the IDE ?

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
For instance, with a local mode query : - we have a lookup buffer with defined bindings (or a set persistent fields) - we change a field name (in FieldDefs) of the query which is bound to the lookup buffer (or the fields set) Here we have an anonymous exception message giving no guess wh

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TMSESQLquery: RevertToIherited doesn't reset FieldDefs

2012-09-14 Thread news.gmane.org
for local queries wit manually defined FieldDefs. -- Got visibility? Most devs has no idea what their production app looks like. Find out how fast your code is with AppDynamics Lite. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;26221967