[music-dsp] CfP - 7th SMC Summer School

2011-01-31 Thread federico avanzini
[Apologies for cross-postings] [Please distribute] 7th Sound and Music Computing Summer School Embodied Sound and Music 02-06 July 2011, Padova, Italy Department of Information Engineering, University of Padova Conservatorio Cesare Pollini, Padova http://smc2011.smcnetwork.org/summer_school.htm

Re: [music-dsp] damn patents (was New patent application on uniformly partitioned convolution) [OT]

2011-01-31 Thread Ross Bencina
Hi Andy Andy Farnell wrote: AXIOM: Ideas should not be patentable. Period. Do I need to explain this? Sorry, you've lost me a bit here. Pehaps you do need to explain it.. see if I'm twisting your words below or if you find that I'm addressing your position (of course I don't expect you to

Re: [music-dsp] damn patents (was New patent application on uniformly partitioned convolution) [OT]

2011-01-31 Thread Al Clark
I am not completely against patents per se. As far I understand things, at least in US Patent Law is that there is no formal peer review process. For the most part, the only time you see an application is after a patent is granted. At that point its largely too late. If you have a patent,

Re: [music-dsp] damn patents (was New patent application on uniformly partitioned convolution) [OT]

2011-01-31 Thread Ross Bencina
Hi Andy Are you suggesting by stating the above axiom that algorithms are _simply_ ideas and that for this reason alone they shouldn't be patentable? Yes I am, you've got it. An algorithm is unsufficiently concrete to deserve a patent, it is an abstraction, a generalisation. Ok... An

Re: [music-dsp] damn patents (was New patent application on uniformly partitioned convolution) [OT]

2011-01-31 Thread Gwenhwyfaer
On 31/01/2011, Ross Bencina rossb-li...@audiomulch.com wrote: Scenario: I invest 1000s of person-years devising a completely original ultra-fast zero-latency convolution algorithm. Might I humbly suggest that the life extension technology which would enable you to take thousands of person-years

Re: [music-dsp] damn patents (was New patent application on uniformly partitioned convolution) [OT]

2011-01-31 Thread Richard Dobson
On 31/01/2011 12:53, Andy Farnell wrote: .. AXIOM: Ideas should not be patentable. Period. Er, they aren't, and never have been. Any patent has to describe a ~device~ - a machine, a thing that can be built - hence the ubiquitous term preferred embodiment. If an invention cannot be expressed