Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-02-04 Thread Eder Souza
From The Moon and Written With My Thumbs ! On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 6:31 PM robert bristow-johnson < r...@audioimagination.com> wrote: > > > Original Message > Subject: Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder &

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-17 Thread robert bristow-johnson
Original Message Subject: Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder From: "Eder Souza" Date: Thu, January 17, 2019 6:46 am To: "A discussion list for mu

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-17 Thread Eder Souza
When I read the original patent US5973252A (Pitch detection and intonation correction apparatus and method), in the vague description of how the pitch shift is made, I wondered if everything seemed to be as simple as I would be imagining... For pitch shift (auto Tune): Just get the fracional perio

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-16 Thread Ethan Duni
Aren't Auto-Tune and similar built on LPC vocoders? I had the impression that was publicly known (recalling magazine interviews/articles from the late 90s). The secret sauce being all the stuff required for pitch tracking, unvoiced segments, different tunings, vibrato, corner cases, etc. But as fa

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-16 Thread Andy Farnell
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 08:05:11PM +0100, David Reaves wrote: > I’m wondering about why the ever-prevalent auto-tune effect in much > of today's (cough!) music (cough!) seems, to my ears, to have such > a vocoder-y sound to it. Are the two effects related? So, I would say yes, they're related.

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-15 Thread STEFFAN DIEDRICHSEN
There was a large discussion back then, but Cher’s Believe was made with Autotune. There’s no vocoder sounding so “clear”. Steffan Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 16.01.2019 um 04:50 schrieb Ben Bradley : > > The popular 1990s Cher song "Believe" uses this sound > that many people point to a

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-15 Thread Jim Wintermyre
On Jan 15, 2019, at 7:50 PM, Ben Bradley wrote: > This use of Autotune/pitch correction does sound remarkably like a > vocoder effect, but there's no real connection between the way they > are generated. The popular 1990s Cher song "Believe" uses this sound > that many people point to as evidence

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-15 Thread Ben Bradley
; Original message > From: David Reaves > Date: 1/15/2019 11:05 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: music-dsp@music.columbia.edu > Cc: Reaves David > Subject: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder > > I’m wondering about why the ever-prevalent auto-tune effect in much of > to

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-15 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2019-01-15, David Reaves wrote: I’m wondering about why the ever-prevalent auto-tune effect in much of today's (cough!) music (cough!) seems, to my ears, to have such a vocoder-y sound to it. Are the two effects related? If you want to do autotuning of not just one (over)tone but many, you

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-15 Thread robert bristow-johnson
b-j� � � � � � � � � � � � �r...@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." Original Message ------------ Subject: Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder From: ra...@raito.com Date: Tue, January 15, 2019 2

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-15 Thread raito
I have an unproven theory about that. The vocal tract has different filtering characteristics at different pitches. If you take a vocal sound and just pitch-shift it, you're also shifting the filter characteristics, and that doesn't sound right. I imagine that some clever person could do somethin

Re: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-15 Thread robert bristow-johnson
(GMT-08:00) To: music-dsp@music.columbia.edu Cc: Reaves David Subject: [music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder I’m wondering about why the ever-prevalent auto-tune effect in much of today's (cough!) music (cough!) seems, to my ears, to have such a vocoder-y sound to it. Are the two

[music-dsp] Auto-tune sounds like vocoder

2019-01-15 Thread David Reaves
I’m wondering about why the ever-prevalent auto-tune effect in much of today's (cough!) music (cough!) seems, to my ears, to have such a vocoder-y sound to it. Are the two effects related? Just curious. David Reaves ___ dupswapdrop: music-dsp mailing li